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    Talking sustanon 250 stacked with d-bol an androbol
    In the middle of a 10 week cycle of sus 250(injectable) . For the first 4 weeks I stacked with the d-bol to give the test time to buid up. Takin 50 mg split 25 in am an 25 b4 workout for the dbol. Test was 500 week one. 750 week 2 1000 a week after that. An i do plan to pyramid back down on the test later. Now the dbol is almost completely gone an only gained a couple lbs so far an I eat a gram to 2 grams if protein per pound of bodyweight. Twice that in carbs.minimum 4000 calories. A day . I have actually gotten better results from prohormones a couple years ago that have now been apparently banned an labeled roids such as SPAWN,Androbol,19-nor an a few others that were great 2 years ago.

    I plan to run another 4 weeks of the sus250 at 1k a week cuz im no where near satisfied. Have a bottle of the new androdrol from powerlabs at home and im seriously considering about using it now for the 2nd month of this cycle an also kinda replacing the dbol as its 1 day from gone.

    Let me know your opinions. Preferrably leave out it will trash your liver. I know. I just want someone experienced to tell me if it's the right time in cycle to mix androdrol in, or if maybe I should of started the cycle with it? .also post cycle therapy (pct) is lined up for after this cycle. Just cause I didn't mention it doesn't mean I forgot it. :-)

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    Hey what's it take to get a response from anyone on here? I posted this cuz I need a second opinion an don't have anyone at all that would know what they are talkin about. Since its been so long since I posted the thread originally I have already started the androdrol an have only about 3 weeks left of it an same for the sus250 at 1k a week. After that androdrol will be gone then going to do sus at 750 a week for 2 weeks an then 500 for the last week. An also tryin to decide if I should start pct after halflife of sus is gone ( about 3 weeks after last injection) or if maybe I should start a lil early around the time I start comin down to only 750 an 500 a week on my last couple weeks. Come on guys let me know something

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    Welcome

    Relax.

    Pyramiding is useless..pick a dose and stick with it. 1k a week is a hefty dose.

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    Whats ur stats??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutonic View Post
    Welcome

    Relax.

    Pyramiding is useless..pick a dose and stick with it. 1k a week is a hefty dose.

    Stats please..
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    height bdy fat..a pic ?

    PCT plans...???
    Hello,

    Im 25 , 5ft 7, an weighed about 164 lbs this morning. I have been workin out for at least 13 years with the occasional few month break here an there, an a extremely hard gainer, body thinks I should be about 150 an refuses to cooperate. I have been as big as 194 lbs solid a couple years ago an had only ever used prohormones back then. But I got real sick for 2 weeks at one point an barely ate an never left the bed an I lost almost 50 lbs an had to start all over.I never really go above 5% body fat never in my life have I ever been over 10%. Also I work about 70 hrs a week in a steel shop where its regularly over 130 degrees f suited an booted. I sweat like im in a sauna at least 12 hrs a day an then go to the gym for a couple hours. Gaining weight for me is no easy feat. I will try to get a pic uploaded sometime.

    For pct I was thinking clomid 50 mg a day an maybe aromasin 25 mg a day for a couple months. Also have a bottle of pct from powerlab nutrions an still need to track down an get a good liver support/ cleaner


    An thanks for trying to help

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    Best thing you can do right now is just run that Sustanon at 600mg/week. 200mg Monday, Wednesday, & Friday. 1000mg does no more than 750mg. Save the 50s for another day because you need more experience with orals besides getting your dick sucked...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yes View Post
    Best thing you can do right now is just run that Sustanon at 600mg/week. 200mg Monday, Wednesday, & Friday. 1000mg does no more than 750mg. Save the 50s for another day because you need more experience with orals besides getting your dick sucked...
    Could u try to be more specific about oral recommendations.

    An had my plan mapped out to run 1k a week an I only have a few weeks left so not about to back down to 600 now even if it is a lil wasteful. I want to keep my test lvls steady while I finish this cycle.

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    600mg of sustanon is nothing to turn your nose up at. You ran 4 weeks already so just make it 14 weeks. That gives you 10 more weeks of training on a very respectful dose. At this stage I don't see those 50s doing anything but cause you problems. You had your kick start with the dbol so why the need to kick again ? You're not going to turn into a giant overnight on a few orals and some Sustanon (sust). Best you can hope for is 10-15lbs of muscle... This pyramid thing that you're working on is going to give you even less gains... That's the best info I got for ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yes View Post
    600mg of sustanon is nothing to turn your nose up at. You ran 4 weeks already so just make it 14 weeks. That gives you 10 more weeks of training on a very respectful dose. At this stage I don't see those 50s doing anything but cause you problems. You had your kick start with the dbol so why the need to kick again ? You're not going to turn into a giant overnight on a few orals and some Sustanon (sust). Best you can hope for is 10-15lbs of muscle... This pyramid thing that you're working on is going to give you even less gains... That's the best info I got for ya.
    10-15lbs would be great but that's just it, im getting stronger but not heavier. I lift extremely heavy (for example monday was doin negatives for a set of 5 with 405 on olympic flat bench) an eat well just not growing. Stupid genetics.....
    An I have been lifting a long time so its not like a expect to blow up over night, but since aftermany years of procrastination , I finally decided to check out the darkside an start pinnin, I want to get the biggest growth spurt possible. It just might kick me out of the rut im stuck in.

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    Run it like I told ya at 200mg eod and see where you are at on week 14. Sustanon is more effective when ran that way. The dbol was a low dose. It would have looking better at around 60mg/day but you can't do anything about that now. 5-6 weeks is when you start too see real gains so your right in the zone now. Eat clean and don't stress the small stuff so eirly in the cycle. It will be there for ya... You just got to give it time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yes View Post
    Run it like I told ya at 200mg eod and see where you are at on week 14. Sustanon is more effective when ran that way. The dbol was a low dose. It would have looking better at around 60mg/day but you can't do anything about that now. 5-6 weeks is when you start too see real gains so your right in the zone now. Eat clean and don't stress the small stuff so eirly in the cycle. It will be there for ya... You just got to give it time.
    Ok that was prett much my plan minus the difference in dosage so I will just keep on going an see what I get.

    What about the androdrol? No one has even mentioned it yet

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    Notsorry pyramiding is just wasting your gear, it's fluctuating the hormone levels i'n you blood up and down pick one dose, i can personally tell you the difference between 1000mg and 750 of Sustanon (sust). Will mainly be sides 750 is a large dose for me and i weigh over 100lbs more than you. Nobody is mentioning androdrol because it's pointless while on Sustanon (sust). When at best all androdrol converts to a small amount of testosterone. Listen to what everybodys trying to tell you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timbo357 View Post
    Notsorry pyramiding is just wasting your gear, it's fluctuating the hormone levels i'n you blood up and down pick one dose, i can personally tell you the difference between 1000mg and 750 of Sustanon (sust). Will mainly be sides 750 is a large dose for me and i weigh over 100lbs more than you. Nobody is mentioning androdrol because it's pointless while on Sustanon (sust). When at best all androdrol converts to a small amount of testosterone. Listen to what everybodys trying to tell you.
    Im listening im just tryin to get all my questions answered an not just the ones that are popular to answer. I had no problems with what they said. Just stated I wanted someone to tell me about the androdrol too since there is not much for reviews out there an as I said prior in the thread, i've already started taking it too.

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    Ok i told what androdrol it won't do any bc your already on a lot of Sustanon (sust) the amount it would produce will not do a thing

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    Your talking about androdrol the prohormone not anadrol right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by timbo357 View Post
    Your talking about androdrol the prohormone not anadrol right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutonic View Post
    Welcome

    Relax.

    Pyramiding is useless..pick a dose and stick with it. 1k a week is a hefty dose.

    Stats please..
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    height bdy fat..a pic ?

    PCT plans...???

    I went ahead an posted a pic of me (it's my b4 cycle pic,was on nothing but protein an creatine at the time it was taken) hopin to make some noticeable gains that involve gaining some weight.... fingers crossed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by notsorry View Post
    In the middle of a 10 week cycle of sus 250(injectable) . For the first 4 weeks I stacked with the d-bol to give the test time to buid up. Takin 50 mg split 25 in am an 25 b4 workout for the dbol. Test was 500 week one. 750 week 2 1000 a week after that. An i do plan to pyramid back down on the test later. Now the dbol is almost completely gone an only gained a couple lbs so far an I eat a gram to 2 grams if protein per pound of bodyweight. Twice that in carbs.minimum 4000 calories. A day . I have actually gotten better results from prohormones a couple years ago that have now been apparently banned an labeled roids such as SPAWN,Androbol,19-nor an a few others that were great 2 years ago.

    I plan to run another 4 weeks of the sus250 at 1k a week cuz im no where near satisfied. Have a bottle of the new androdrol from powerlabs at home and im seriously considering about using it now for the 2nd month of this cycle an also kinda replacing the dbol as its 1 day from gone.

    Let me know your opinions. Preferrably leave out it will trash your liver. I know. I just want someone experienced to tell me if it's the right time in cycle to mix androdrol in, or if maybe I should of started the cycle with it? .also post cycle therapy (pct) is lined up for after this cycle. Just cause I didn't mention it doesn't mean I forgot it. :-)
    pyramiding is a bad idea period.

    if you have only gained a couple of pounds on that cycle you are either way overestimating your calorie intake or your steroids are fake. you weight 164 pounds so unless you have so crazy thyroid conditon you should have gained that much weight or more just on the food.
    NOT ONLY IS STUPIDITY INCURABLE BUT ITS ALSO CONTAGIOUS OVER THE INTERNET.

    VAR ONLY CYCLES ARE ONLY FOR PEOPLE WITH A VAGINA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DADAWG View Post
    pyramiding is a bad idea period.

    if you have only gained a couple of pounds on that cycle you are either way overestimating your calorie intake or your steroids are fake. you weight 164 pounds so unless you have so crazy thyroid conditon you should have gained that much weight or more just on the food.
    ok pyramiding a bad idea , lol that much everyone agrees on. Noted an i wont do it again.

    an about the calorie intake. I eat nonstop but I work about 70 hrs a week in a steel shop where its regularly over 130 degrees f suited an booted. I sweat like im in a sauna at least 12 hrs a day an then go to the gym for a couple hours. This has been the only thing i have been able to attribute the lack of weight gain to. Thinkin maybe its just to hot all the time... like swimming against the rivers current. Do u think that its more likely that this is the case or that its more likely that my gear is fake???

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    if your at the gym a couple of hours your there to long 1-1.5 hours and get out. especially for you because with your job your easily overtrained.
    NOT ONLY IS STUPIDITY INCURABLE BUT ITS ALSO CONTAGIOUS OVER THE INTERNET.

    VAR ONLY CYCLES ARE ONLY FOR PEOPLE WITH A VAGINA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DADAWG View Post
    if your at the gym a couple of hours your there to long 1-1.5 hours and get out. especially for you because with your job your easily overtrained.
    no problem with leavin the gym sooner, but did u think its more likely that i have fake gear? or its just to hot to often combined with a super fast metabolism causin me problems gaining weight???

    also if u think the gear is the problem , where do recommend i order better gear from for my next cycle that i plan to run during the winter months??

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    Quote Originally Posted by notsorry View Post
    no problem with leavin the gym sooner, but did u think its more likely that i have fake gear? or its just to hot to often combined with a super fast metabolism causin me problems gaining weight???

    also if u think the gear is the problem , where do recommend i order better gear from for my next cycle that i plan to run during the winter months??
    no way for me to know if the gear is legit but check out the link in my signature and look for the add from z when you get there .
    NOT ONLY IS STUPIDITY INCURABLE BUT ITS ALSO CONTAGIOUS OVER THE INTERNET.

    VAR ONLY CYCLES ARE ONLY FOR PEOPLE WITH A VAGINA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DADAWG View Post
    no way for me to know if the gear is legit but check out the link in my signature and look for the add from z when you get there .
    While on the subject of shoppin for gear, what do u suggest for a bulk an strength cycle next time (absolutely not concerned with cutting cycles at all lol ) considering my stats an lack of results so far on sus250/dbol stack .

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    Not sorry are you still on?

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    A great oldie but goodie
    A great cycle is tes cyp stacked with deca and dbol. If it's mass and strenth your in .

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