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    IGF-1 or GHRP-6 which is better?
    Want something between cycles. I have read about both and goals are increase muscle and strength while burning fat.
    I nervous about the IGF-1 because I already have hypoglycemia.....


    So, which peptide is better for use between cycles or should I take them both?

    Thanks!

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    Well they are completely different. Igf is good for helping retain muscle. Ghrp6 is a growth hormone releasing hormone. Ghrp's are best used in combination with a ghrh.

    For your purpose I would go with igf lr3.

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    Ghrp6 is good for increased appetite tho so it is good during pct.

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    Ok, last question which IGF to get, DES or just IGF-1?

    Gonna place an order and want to do it right

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    If your gonna go with GHRP6 I would recommend GHRP2 instead. I have tried a couple different brands of both for some time now and it seems that GHRP2 works better in all ways then the 2 IMO.

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    Igf DES is stronger and faster acting. Lr3 is good during post cycle therapy (pct) so I would go with that. Don't worry about hypo as long as you eat around the time of inject. Most people never notice any hypo feelings. You will need .6% AA to reconstitute it. 40 to 60mcg is all that's needed.

    Look at the ghrp's and decide for yourself. Ghrp6 is good during post cycle therapy (pct) because it will increase appetite which is helpful in post cycle therapy (pct). As far as strength goes, hexarilin is by far the strongest of the ghrp's but can increase prolactin.

    Again I would also use a ghrh if you are going to use ghrp. The combination is synergistic and much more effective.
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    Im on both ghrp6 and igf des... Probably my 12th day in and im starting to notice the effects of both. My weight is up a few pounds and im leaner. My apetite is up, which is great

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    P.s. User: I just got hex. How do you want me to reconstitute? I have bacteriostatic water, acetic acid and sodium chloride on hand.

    Also, whats your suggested dosing protocol?

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    GHRP-2 is more potent than GHRP-6

    GHRP combined with a GHRH like MOD GRF 1-29 is a better combo than with IGF.

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    Metro, bac water. Good to hear you are getting results.

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    Great info!
    So, GHRP-2 with-cjc-1295 is a good cycle?
    Any recommended doses?

    Also, I am going to assume all board sponsors have been vetted to be legit. Is this a true statement?

    Thanks again guys, I really appreciate it

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    Yes they are. Try SRC for peps. Do not use cjc1295 with DAC. Without DAC is fine. Mod grf and ghrp2 or 6 or ipamorelin. 100mcg each three times a day is the best for those. Igf lr3 or igf DES at 40 to 60mcg.

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    Ok, last question but the most important.
    I have read that best results for IGF is bi-lateral IM after work outs.
    I have 2 questions:
    1. Do I go 15 mcg per worked muscle group each evening, or is there something better?
    2. The GHRP-2 is this sub q or IM?

    Prepping an order now and this will be a nice change between cycles.

    Thanks a ton!
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    I use pre workout. I've tried all ways but prefer pre. Post your body produces mgf and igf will blunt that. You can do it sub q or I'm.

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    Coincidentally, I got hypo today. I just ate 20 min ago and now I feel like laying down.

    Ive been sshooting my igf post workout because I heard the window of 30 min post workout was best for absorbtion. Dunno how true that is. Id love to do it prior to lifting that muscle group as ive heard it gives wicked pumps.

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    That's old info. Te body also produces mgf post workout and igf will stop it from functioning. It's all trial and error and I've tried every way possible and had good results every time.

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    Okay, what precisely do I have to do to prevent the hypo feeling from ocurring again? That sucked.

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    Just eat and consume carbs immediately before or after your shot. That should be enough.

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    Ok, just so I am clear here:
    IGF-1 pin pre-work out. Pin 15mcgs in each muscle I wanna work? So for back and bi's pin both my bi's and both my lat's?

    Tried to PM this question but don't have enough posts.

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    Well it depends on how much you want to use but honestly I pin sub q the majority of the time but when I do IM, yes I'll do both bi's. I stuck to pecs, delts, bi's, tri's, calf's, You can pin anywhere you want but lr3 will go systemic. If you want spot growth you can micro dose it meaning split that 15mcg into 3 5mcg injects into each muscle.

    You can pin post wo if you want. I did and had good results but supposed to blunt natural mgf(mechano growth factor) production. Then I did pre workout. Great pumps and overall worked just as well. I also did first thing in morning and that worked well so my guess is as long as you use it, it will work.

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    It sounds like I should start pinning igf des before my work outs and now supplement mgf post work out now, too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UserAt204 View Post
    Metro, bac water. Good to hear you are getting results.
    how much bw should I reconstitue with? What will this make the concentration and lastly, the dose (iu) and frequency?

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    Depends on how many mg. Google peptide calculator and enter the dose you want,100mcg, the amount of peptide, and mess with bw amounts. I usually keep it simple. 5mg add 5ml bw = 1000mcg per 1ml so half is 500mcg so 1/10 is 100mcg so the 10marf on a 1ml slin pin is 100mcg.

    I used DES pre and mgf post and it was ok. Wasn't real impressed. Ive only tried two cycles like that. First time I added 1/2inch to my pecs, then about 20days later it disappeared. Others like the combo and in theory it's perfect but I just didnt notice much difference. Actually I used peg mgf so maybe mgf is better option.

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    User- thanks a bunch for all of the great information!

    Game plan I have (correct me if I am wrong)
    Work out day will go bi lateral injections into target muscle at 15mcg per and then another 30 mcg sub q - this will be in the am then will eat, I work out in the evenings. Example will be back and bi is target will inject bi's one Fay ten back the next lift day. Will rotate target muscle groups looking for some localized growth.

    Hope this sounds feasible....
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    Sounds good bit lr3 is not the best for localized growth. Unless you microdose bit either way.

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