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    Junior Bodybuilder Hammer's Avatar
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    Do you use
    Does any body use creatine while on. Im gonna be starting a fina/dbol/test cycle and was wondering if I should be using creatine during cycle. The dbol Im only running 25mg ed for first four weeks.

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    Definitely cant hurt IMO. Go for it.

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    Junior Bodybuilder Hammer's Avatar
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    Thx bro. Good board by the way, I came over from elitefitness I go by rickw over there, but it looks good here.

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    Absolutely.

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    yup!

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    Of course.......heres an article you may find interest in, not sure where I go it (sorry) but its about cycling and creatine use, very informative......


    All anabolic steriods are synthetic compounds whose structure is similar to that of the natural male sex horomone
    testosterone. Testosterone affects development of the male body in
    two important ways: it has an anabolic effect-increased growth,
    expecially of muscular and skeletal tissue and an androgenic
    effect-increased development of mail sexual characteristics. Once
    taken into the bloodstream, anabolic steriods bind to hormone
    receptonrs on skeletal muscle and other cells and stimulate
    synthesis of certain specific enzymes. These enzymes promote two
    improtant biochemical reactions: creatine phoshate systesis and
    protein sythesis. Creatine phospate is a molecule that can be
    metabolized in the absense of sufficient oxygen as a shot-term
    source of energy. Increased creatine phospate synthesis thus allows
    athletes to train harders and for longer periods of time, and
    therefore build more muscle. Protien synthesis is essential for
    long-term development of increased muscle mass or "bulk". In
    addtion, anabolic steriods promote nitrogen retention by the body.
    By allowing for better utization of the nitrogen in ingested
    protein, anabolic steriods help athlets to build mass. However this
    effect is offset by the bodys homeostatic mechanisms, which are
    designed to maintain a stable environment: therefore in order to
    increase body mas by using anabolic steriods, athletes must also
    adhere to a diet with suffiecent protein and calories - up to 10,000
    calories daily with 300 to 400 grams of protein.


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    Question, Creatine synthisis, if you increase creatine intake while
    on AS will it help you get stronger. I had allways thought it just
    added to the amount of water you retain ?
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    Although creatine does have testosterone-like effects,it doesn't act
    as a steroid hormone.Instead,it's a mediator of some of the
    androgens' anabolic effects.In fact,steroid users get far more out
    of their cycles if they take in massive amounts of creatine along
    with the drugs.Androgens are among the hormones that can force the
    entry of creatine into muscle cells.While there's a clear
    relationship between muscle strength gains and increases in muscle
    creatine stores,unfortunately,the relationship is not as obvious
    when it comes to increases in muscle mass.Animal-based studies have
    shown that the muscles of untrained rats take up as much creatine as
    the muscles of trained rats,but the ANABOLIC effects of creatine are
    only obvious in trained rats.Therefore,training increases the
    muscles sensitivity to the anabolic actions of creatine.(Although
    it's not related to this article,the study also demonstrated that
    the anabolic effects of creatine are DIRECT,and not mediated by
    waterretention.In fact,in the 1970s American and Russian studies
    pointed out a DIRECT anabolic effect of creatine on muscle
    cells.)Testosterone increases the muscles'sensitivity to the
    anabolic properties of creatine in addition to enhancing the
    creatine buildup in muscle fibers.It's also obvious that part of the
    strength gains people experience while on steroids are mediated by
    an increase in muscle creatine stores.An interesting discovery A/S
    users have made is that they should dramatically increase their
    creatine intake during a cycle to boost the potency of the
    steroids.Thanks to creatine,people can build more muscle mass with
    fewer drugs.Anecdotal evidence from A/S users points out that it
    takes at least 10-15 grams(maintenance)of creatine a day to visibly
    enhance the the anabolic potency of a steroid stack.There are
    probably good reasons for the increased creatine requirement when
    androgen levels are high.As mentioned above,steroids increase the
    muscle uptake of creatine,and if the muscles are ready to accept
    more creatine,why not give it to them?I also think that even though
    steroids enhance creatine synthesis,they may increase creatine
    degradation as well-so more creatine is used up every day.That could
    be due to an increase in muscle creatine turnover and also the fact
    that an elevated muscle protein synthesis rate will likely consume
    creatine at a faster rate.Other reasons for a higher creatine
    requirement may be indirect.Because the muscles of drug users are
    stronger and receive more training,they may waste greater amounts of
    creatine during training.Once inside the muscle,creatine provides
    not only an anabolic effect,but also a rapidly mobilized source of
    fuel.Muscle protein synthesis is a process that wastes great amounts
    of energy.Anabolism is an ATP-dependent process,which means that
    it's essential for protein synthesis.If the cellular level of ATP is
    reduced even a little,IT STOPS ANABOLISM.So even if you can increase
    the testosterone content of your muscles,nothing will happen if your
    ATP level is low.Creatine supports anabolism by providing energy to
    the muscle...

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    great read

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    Yes, I always do!

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    I don't use it while on. I cycle creative. I only use it when I'm off AAS. When I jump on I stop using it.

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    I can't use it. For some reason if I take it I get constant muscle cramps... especially in my bi's... and I get my worst muscle pulls ONLY when I am using creatine.

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    i use creatine while im on.

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    I prefer it post cycle for that full look and strenght boost along with my clen and clomid.

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