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    Blast and cruise
    I am currently being trained by someone in the industry who holds a pro card and is well known by probably the majority of this board.
    I am about to start my first cycle in about a year along with a clean bulk. He has me on a blast and cruise cycle as follows:

    BLAST
    test e 750mg wk1-12
    tren a 100mg EOD wk 1-12
    deca 500mg wk1-12

    CRUISE
    deca 250wk wk 1-4
    along with nolva

    BLAST
    test e 1000mg wk 1-8
    tren a 150mg wk 1-8
    deca 600mg wk 1-8
    (mid way through the 12 wks he wants me to switch compounds)
    test prop wk 8-12
    eq wk 8-12
    dbol 8-12

    CRUISE
    deca 300mg/wk 1-4
    nolvadex
    I am pretty sure I am to stay on deca throughout

    So blast 3 times cruise 2wice then off.
    and run hcg 500 ui 2wice a week for the duration.

    My concern is my recovery, nolvadex during cruising is supposed to bring my
    hpta up as close to normal as I can in 4 weeks.

    I am also concerned with infertility. I have ran long cycles b4(20 weeks) but not his long, this is almost a year on....44 weeks total I believe.

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    I,ve heard of cruising with test or var but not deca. But someone with more knowledge will chime in.

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    Why aren't you using Test for the cruise part ?

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    you don't have any cycles under your belt and you're jumping into this? not a wise decision in my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by swizzoled View Post
    Why aren't you using Test for the cruise part ?
    That was also my question. He mentioned something about colagen levels? He said if I feel more comfortable cruising test that it would be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyTrainR View Post
    you don't have any cycles under your belt and you're jumping into this? not a wise decision in my opinion
    don't know where you got the idea i had no cycles under my belt. Read the OP, its my first cycle in a year. This will be about cycle#8

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    Quote Originally Posted by BilboBaggins View Post
    don't know where you got the idea i had no cycles under my belt. Read the OP, its my first cycle in a year. This will be about cycle#8
    I read it as, "I'm about to start my first cycle in about a year" ..thinking you had this whole thing planned out to do in a year from now.

    I get what you're saying now..just got confused with the wording.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyTrainR View Post
    I read it as, "I'm about to start my first cycle in about a year" ..thinking you had this whole thing planned out to do in a year from now.

    I get what you're saying now..just got confused with the wording.
    Ive been off for about a year due to injury.

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    Anyways! your questioning your trainer? or your past knowledge with so many cycles? What worked for you in the past?

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    yikes cruising on deca? your unit and girl may not enjoy that

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    I heard somewhere you can eat 10 watermelons a day to keep ur shtick strong! I can try and find the info for that if needed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo79 View Post
    Anyways! your questioning your trainer? or your past knowledge with so many cycles? What worked for you in the past?
    I am not questioning the gains I will achieve, and I mentioned when we started that my health is a big concern. I am just curious about other plps experience with this style cycle, and others thoughts on recovery when using this style cycle.

    My other question was regarding the cruise while running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), can this bring back your hpta functions slightly or at all to make it easier to recover when finally coming off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BilboBaggins View Post
    I am not questioning the gains I will achieve, and I mentioned when we started that my health is a big concern. I am just curious about other plps experience with this style cycle, and others thoughts on recovery when using this style cycle.

    My other question was regarding the cruise while running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), can this bring back your hpta functions slightly or at all to make it easier to recover when finally coming off?
    Well that's a good question! And I'm not one to answer but, it's seems like a long time to be running gear anyways! But different srtokes for diff folks! And I don't want to steer you in a wrong direction bro.

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    id say you arent going to have any hpta functions while on this adventure. ur always on deca and that is not going to allow any recovery of hpta

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo79 View Post
    Well that's a good question! And I'm not one to answer but, it's seems like a long time to be running gear anyways! But different srtokes for diff folks! And I don't want to steer you in a wrong direction bro.
    My longest cycle in the past was a little over 20wks, and recovery was a bitch. I like the idea of the blast and cruise but a little worried about recovery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo79 View Post
    I heard somewhere you can eat 10 watermelons a day to keep ur shtick strong! I can try and find the info for that if needed!
    I have been fortunate enough to never have that problem, and deca and tren are my two fav compounds.

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    I dont really like the cruising on deca and thats a long time to be on deca.

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    i wanna read the watermellon study for shits and giggles

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    Quote Originally Posted by BilboBaggins View Post
    I have been fortunate enough to never have that problem, and deca and tren are my two fav compounds.
    Well, can somebody help this guy?? My fav compound is 105#s of sweet ass..and i'm not so sure i want to share. Tren I will try in the far future and deca next cycle... maybe low dose test and even lower dose of deca or none at all to cruise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeandyourGirl View Post
    i wanna read the watermellon study for shits and giggles
    haha, i will find it for you!

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    I will not cruise with deca, I will cruise with 250mg of test. And see if I can get away with dumping the deca on the second blast. he will be pissed. I was told not to think. And I pay him enough that I should not have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeandyourGirl View Post
    i wanna read the watermellon study for shits and giggles
    We’ve always known that watermelon is good for you, but the list of its very important healthful benefits grows longer with each study.”

    Beneficial ingredients in watermelon and other fruits and vegetables are known as phyto-nutrients, naturally occurring compounds that are bioactive, or able to react with the human body to trigger healthy reactions, Patil said.

    In watermelons, these include lycopene, beta carotene and the rising star among its phyto-nutrients – citrulline – whose beneficial functions are now being unraveled. Among them is the ability to relax blood vessels, much like Viagra does.

    Scientists know that when watermelon is consumed, citrulline is converted to arginine through certain enzymes. Arginine is an amino acid that works wonders on the heart and circulation system and maintains a good immune system, Patil said.

    “The citrulline-arginine relationship helps heart health, the immune system and may prove to be very helpful for those who suffer from obesity and type 2 diabetes,” said Patil. “Arginine boosts nitric oxide, which relaxes blood vessels, the same basic effect that Viagra has, to treat erectile dysfunction and maybe even prevent it.”

    While there are many psychological and physiological problems that can cause impotence, extra nitric oxide could help those who need increased blood flow, which would also help treat angina, high blood pressure and other cardiovascular problems.

    “Watermelon may not be as organ specific as Viagra,” Patil said, “but it’s a great way to relax blood vessels without any drug side-effects.”

    The benefits of watermelon don’t end there, he said. Arginine also helps the urea cycle by removing ammonia and other toxic compounds from our bodies.

    Citrulline, the precursor to arginine, is found in higher concentrations in the rind of watermelons than the flesh. As the rind is not commonly eaten, two of Patil’s fellow scientists, drs. Steve King and Hae Jeen Bang, are working to breed new varieties with higher concentrations in the flesh.

    In addition to the research by Texas A&M, watermelon’s phyto-nutrients are being studied by the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s Agricultural Research Service in Lane, Oklahoma.

    As an added bonus, these studies have also shown that deep red varieties of watermelon have displaced the tomato as the lycopene king, Patil said. Almost 92 percent of watermelon is water, but the remaining 8 percent is loaded with lycopene, an anti-oxidant that protects the human heart, prostate and skin health.

    “Lycopene, which is also found in red grapefruit, was historically thought to exist only in tomatoes,” he said. “But now we know that it’s found in higher concentrations in red watermelon varieties.”

    Lycopene, however, is fat-soluble, meaning that it needs certain fats in the blood for better absorption by the body, Patil said.

    “Previous tests have shown that lycopene is much better absorbed from tomatoes when mixed in a salad with oily vegetables like avocado or spinach,” Patil said. “That would also apply to the lycopene from watermelon, but I realize mixing watermelon with spinach or avocadoes is a very hard sell.”

    No studies have been conducted to determine the timing of the consumption of oily vegetables to improve lycopene absorption, he said.

    “One final bit of advice for those Fourth of July watermelons you buy,” Patil said. “They store much better uncut if you leave them at room temperature. Lycopene levels can be maintained even as it sits on your kitchen floor. But once you cut it, refrigerate. And enjoy.”
    And there is more if you need! ...peace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BilboBaggins View Post
    I will not cruise with deca, I will cruise with 250mg of test. And see if I can get away with dumping the deca on the second blast. he will be pissed. I was told not to think. And I pay him enough that I should not have to.
    Look out for #1 bro!! Think on your own...and you found the right place for people helping you to steer in da right or left place|! hope it's right!

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    Or save the digestion space and take viagra..

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