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    First cycle question?
    Ok, In my first cycle I am going to use dbol 25 or 30mgs for 4 weeks and omna's at 500mgs for 10 weeks. The problem is I was gonna add deca at 400mgs a week or EQ at the same but now may be getting a federal job in a few months and will be drug tested. Not sure if they test for Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) and wondering if 400mgs of deca or eq will yield much better results if i take it for 10 weeks along with the Sustanon (sust). Should i or should i not add the deca or eq?
    The point is will i see a huge difference by adding it. I am 6'0 215 pounds maybe 12-13% bodyfat. thanks all

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    Throw in the deca, its more for mass and fits well with what ur using, don't worry about the drug test, its not for aas.

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    I say you should use only one compound for your first cycle. Its better in the long run because you find out much easier what works for you and what does not.

    First cycle should be deca + dbol, if you want to stack.

    second cycle should be test +dbol, or test + deca.

    third should be all three.


    Bro, I gained 23lbs and dropped 1% bf using only 8 amps of Sustanon (sust) for my first. I kept all gains just by using clomid and training and eating properly.

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    Test/d-bol is fine! i would have used Test/eq, but thats me! I doubt the federal job will test for steroids!

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    Try the test/eq so then you can substitute the dbol with fina. Test/dbol/deca is still an awesome stack however I don't like how ward deca shuts you down.

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    Originally posted by LAWNSAVER
    Test/d-bol is fine! i would have used Test/eq
    Either one of these would be a great first cycle.

    JohnnyB

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    I would go for... Test & D-bol for your first cycle. 1 of my friends is doing same one(his first)big gaines bro. In 6 weeks he is up 18lbs. He is 6'0 at 250-255 lbs BF 17%. Next cycle will be Test & EQ for him. Then some clen.

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    I would switch ur test to enan or cyp (which ever is cheaper)

    As for ur question...400 mgs of dbol will give you about the same gains as 200 mgs of test and 400 mgs of eq will give you about the same gains as 133 mgs of test...so why not just up your test? If you stick with dbol and test, but end up getting the enanthate then I'd suggest sticking with 500 mgs a week, but if you dont switch and use the omnas go with 1cc every 3 days...

    I also have something else for you to think about incase you end up using just dbol and SUST...because of the esters in Sustanon (sust), I'd venture to guess it would take a little longer to shut down ur nat test than when using enan or cyp...the dbol is going to shut you down rite away...that being said you mite want to think about using the dbol weeks 5-8...most likely will work out that you werent shut down as long than if you were to start the dbol on day 1 of your cycle...week 5 you will def be shut down AND your Sustanon (sust) levels will be peaking...using the dbol at this time will give you more gains than if you werent using it this week (obviously because more steriods = more gains), but obviously less gains than if you were to use dbol to kick start ur cycle
    Last edited by ready2explode; 02-03-2003 at 03:27 PM.

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    Originally posted by Golden_Muscle
    I say you should use only one compound for your first cycle. Its better in the long run because you find out much easier what works for you and what does not.

    First cycle should be deca + dbol, if you want to stack.

    second cycle should be test +dbol, or test + deca.

    third should be all three.

    Well said. You dont need to make it to complex on your first cycle. I would go dbol deca on your first cycle. You will grow big time with this!

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