[auga]

anyone out there that is prone to acne on aas. if so have you found any good stacks that dont make you brakeout. or have you tried accutane to clear it up? what would the dose be ? ANd would it be ok to use it while on a cycle. i took deca with dbol years ago and had no problems with it but i hate not having the test in there as a base. im starting a cycle soon and want to know if i should try getting some accutane. thanks.

[auga]

Cycle is
week 1-5 dbol or tbol 30 mg ed (have both but have not decided whitch one to use yet)
1-12 test c 375 ew
1-10 deca 300 ew
14-17 clomid 50mg ed 100 mg first two days
have prami and letro on hand. and should i use the letro at a low dose through the whole cycle as im prone to gyno. what dose would be good? i have research stop liquid letro and prami. i have heard that keeping the estro down with letro will help control the acne

[Scarz]

i think u should bump ur test up to 500mg shot twice a week
start ure pct 15 days after ure last injection of deca
i would use nolva on cycle at 20mg ed if ure prone to gyno

for acne, if it's severe like mine can get on cycle, i suggest accutane at a low dose of 10mg. dont go crazy with the dose regardless of what u hear because a higher dose does not mean better results, it only means deadly sides.

whats ure bf%? and stats?

[auga]

5'8
175lbs
dont know bf% but im very lean and vascular
lifting 6 years total
Is that 10mg every day for the accutane?
And nolva is not good when using deca thats why i got prami. from what i have read Letro is the strongest AI.BTW great post on what grinds your gears. thats so true and those rediculous pants! LOL

[auga]

BTW i have not cycled in about 4 years i lost about 30LBS just havnt had time for the gym in a while.

[Scarz]

yeh 4got the deca, ure right stay off nolva. yeh 10mg ed. the best on this planet for acne.

[THE-DET-OAK]

i did not get much acne at all on my last cycle-i ran aromasin the whole time. this time im givin it a go without the AI-granted im running a lot more gear-but im def getting a lil more acne.

[Scarz]

yeh newbs everybody reacts differently. skin types, oily skin, the whole 9 yards. i still get acne even off cycle but much worse on cycle even with ai. accutane is the best thing ive ever tried for my acne. and ive used everything u can imagine....even that pussy crap Proactive shit.

[THE-DET-OAK]

yea cause of all the stuff i saw you post about accutane-im tryin to get my boy to use it on his next cycle-he tried researching on his own and he is afraid of the side effects. he is very prone to acne on or off cycle.

thankfully im not prone at all-if i get 3 or 4 total-i start freaking out-i have complex with sqeezing the shit out of them-even before they are ready.

[Scarz]

no thats because all those nasty sides come at what the docs use to prescribe accutane at 80mg. then they stopped because the sides caused severe depression and suicidal attemps amongst other serious health concerns. then studies were conducted to prove that 80mg was much too fuckin high. u can get the same benefits at 10-20mg of accutane but WITHOUT the sides.

Disclaimer: ALWAYS check with ure doc if u take other meds to see if they coincide.

[THE-DET-OAK]

i tried to tell him the side effects from severe acne-i think-would be worse than the accutane sides. now that you put it that way-i will direct him to this thread

[Scarz]

good move. let me know if u want multiple studies to prove the efficacy of the low dose

[Die$eL~Man]

jump in the tanning booth

[Roidrage81]

im taking 20 mg ed of accutane while on cycle. yea im clearing up just takes a little longer on the lower dosage plus im pumped full of test. overall very happy with the accutane results so far. however, accutane is an 8 month cycle though.

[tacosauce]

8 months? sounds expensive

[Roidrage81]

nah bro it isn't too bad. i paid $130 for a 3month supply from my source in Isotretinoin20 mg capsules (generic version of accutane). I can get 180 pills for $175 too.

[R1rider]

Im 25 and its not really that big an issue for me. Try minocycline or something else. Accutane is hard on the liver too.

[Roidrage81]

the nice thing i noticed with accutane while on cycle is my skin doesn't get all oily like it use to.

[Scarz]

courtesy of drug info dot com:

Accutane and Potential for Liver Problems [posted 9/29/98]
Question: I have heard that Accutane has been implicated in liver toxicity. At 10mg/day, how great is the potential for liver damage? What is it about the structure of the drug that causes damage to the liver?

Answer: Accutane is very close in structure to vitamin A-in high doses a known liver toxin-presumably since it is stored in the liver. You should have ongoing liver function tests performed on this drug( at first every 3-4 months and then 6-12);but, in general, few problems would be expected at 10 mg. Also, many physicians would use the drug 3-4 months and then have a 6-8 week "holiday" to avoid any risk of hepatotoxicity.

in other words, chances are very slim but u can be on the safe side and do as recommended above and see a doc. but if u already have liver issues then definetly see a doc regularly once approved for accutane.

as far as the 8 months cycle of accutane goes, that's for situations where u are already seriously prone to bad acne in general, not just due to being on cycle with steroids. then u'd be best to stay on for 8-10 months and subside dose to see if it's gone for good and for how long, but usually accutane is a treatment so ongoing use may be necessary. but if u get acne only on cycle then just use it during cycle!

[auga]

so i would have to stay on accutane for 8 months at 10 mg everyday? that sounds like a long time! How long before i see it work. i have not started the cycle yet but i know i will see acne around week 6 or 7 but hope fully from what i heard lowering estrogen with letro will decrease the acne. When i say i get acne im saying my back and shoulders look like lumpy pizza. its fucking insane! tough to hide it.

[Scarz]

Originally Posted by auga

so i would have to stay on accutane for 8 months at 10 mg everyday? that sounds like a long time! How long before i see it work. i have not started the cycle yet but i know i will see acne around week 6 or 7 but hope fully from what i heard lowering estrogen with letro will decrease the acne. When i say i get acne im saying my back and shoulders look like lumpy pizza. its fucking insane! tough to hide it.

dude, did u read my post at all? i said if u only get acne while on cycle then u only need accutance while on cycle.

the 8-10month is for those who have crazy acne and pimples in general (not steroid associated).

[Roidrage81]

i agree with scarz. i'll probably only use till end of cycle and stop one month after.