[muscleshark]

Hey guys, I have a professional MMA fight coming up on May 21, 2010. I have just been informed that there will be steroid testing and I need some help timing my cycle.

My initial plan was to take test cyp starting on Nov. 23 and I would be done by Jan. 31, so that leaves Feb, March, and April for it to leave my system, exactly 3 months plus a few more weeks. According to the detection chart, I should be fine, but what do you guys think? Do you think I'm cutting it a little close?

Plan B is to take a test prop cycle which will clear within two weeks, however I haven't heard great things about prop. Also, how is prop if i am worried about a receding hairline, I'm fine now but I'm afraid I might be prone.

Thanks a lot for your help in advance.

[1badmofo]

Is this Sean Sherk? If so, I told you the Deca stays in your system for a long time.

[muscleshark]

damn bro i shoulda listened to you before...any advice this time?

[1badmofo]

I honestly don't know about these tests, maybe some else will chime it to help.

[numba1scrapper]

Originally Posted by muscleshark

Hey guys, I have a professional MMA fight coming up on May 21, 2010. I have just been informed that there will be steroid testing and I need some help timing my cycle.

My initial plan was to take test cyp starting on Nov. 23 and I would be done by Jan. 31, so that leaves Feb, March, and April for it to leave my system, exactly 3 months plus a few more weeks. According to the detection chart, I should be fine, but what do you guys think? Do you think I'm cutting it a little close?

Plan B is to take a test prop cycle which will clear within two weeks, however I haven't heard great things about prop. Also, how is prop if i am worried about a receding hairline, I'm fine now but I'm afraid I might be prone.

Thanks a lot for your help in advance.

lol.. your not really sean sherk right? Anyyways lol, I actualy LIKE prop very much. I got VERY good gains and LESS side effects then other test. Even though the half life is shorter, the side effects are said to be alot milder then other tests.

[Biggin]

Go with Test-Prop for 6-8 weeks Maximum. Inject eod, with 8 weeks being the Max. I suggest 6 weeks just to be on the safe side.

[KING KONG]

Run the prop and var

Originally Posted by muscleshark

Hey guys, I have a professional MMA fight coming up on May 21, 2010. I have just been informed that there will be steroid testing and I need some help timing my cycle.

My initial plan was to take test cyp starting on Nov. 23 and I would be done by Jan. 31, so that leaves Feb, March, and April for it to leave my system, exactly 3 months plus a few more weeks. According to the detection chart, I should be fine, but what do you guys think? Do you think I'm cutting it a little close?

Plan B is to take a test prop cycle which will clear within two weeks, however I haven't heard great things about prop. Also, how is prop if i am worried about a receding hairline, I'm fine now but I'm afraid I might be prone.

Thanks a lot for your help in advance.

[KING KONG]

Prop, Cyp, Enth Sus all the same Test is Test
some have short esters some long some both.
Now if you are worried about testing go with the Prop it has a short life in the body.
Go with prop and you won't lose your hair.
If you have ran deca that will not clear your body for up to 18 months.

Originally Posted by muscleshark

Hey guys, I have a professional MMA fight coming up on May 21, 2010. I have just been informed that there will be steroid testing and I need some help timing my cycle.

My initial plan was to take test cyp starting on Nov. 23 and I would be done by Jan. 31, so that leaves Feb, March, and April for it to leave my system, exactly 3 months plus a few more weeks. According to the detection chart, I should be fine, but what do you guys think? Do you think I'm cutting it a little close?

Plan B is to take a test prop cycle which will clear within two weeks, however I haven't heard great things about prop. Also, how is prop if i am worried about a receding hairline, I'm fine now but I'm afraid I might be prone.

Thanks a lot for your help in advance.

[var4me]

Originally Posted by 1badmofo

Is this Sean Sherk? If so, I told you the Deca stays in your system for a long time.

LMAO and +1 for the prop and var.

[Scarz]

Originally Posted by muscleshark

Hey guys, I have a professional MMA fight coming up on May 21, 2010. I have just been informed that there will be steroid testing and I need some help timing my cycle.

My initial plan was to take test cyp starting on Nov. 23 and I would be done by Jan. 31, so that leaves Feb, March, and April for it to leave my system, exactly 3 months plus a few more weeks. According to the detection chart, I should be fine, but what do you guys think? Do you think I'm cutting it a little close?

Plan B is to take a test prop cycle which will clear within two weeks, however I haven't heard great things about prop. Also, how is prop if i am worried about a receding hairline, I'm fine now but I'm afraid I might be prone.

Thanks a lot for your help in advance.

test prop - 2 cycles
6 weeks on, 6 weeks off, and 6 weeks on again.
it will be gone out of ure system in time for ure fight and u won`t be off for so long between ure cycle and the fight.

as far as your hair goes, take finasteride if ure worried. but all test are the same on the hair.

[livebigdieyoung]

yeh bro scarz advice is solid there!

[muscleshark]

Thanks for all the input guys, I think the prop and var sounds good...however, some bodybuilders I know have told my cypionate is the best for your first time and that if I take prop I can "kiss my hairline goodbye". Are the detection times based on urine or blood and how accurate are they. And no I'm not Sean Sherk, I'm Brock Lesnar...lol jk

ps: how is the pain from injecting prop, you gotta remember I have to train everyday so I can't be missing training session cuz of pain.

[R1rider]

If you are Sean Sherk, i am a fan.
I train MMA also and pain was minimal. I would suggest injecting in the glutes, shoulders after practice so you have some time in between. I had no pain with Test Cypionate when i did my cycle. Do a lower dose like 200mg, twice a week.

[muscleshark]

Originally Posted by R1rider

If you are Sean Sherk, i am a fan.
I train MMA also and pain was minimal. I would suggest injecting in the glutes, shoulders after practice so you have some time in between. I had no pain with Test Cypionate when i did my cycle. Do a lower dose like 200mg, twice a week.

do you think 3 months is actually long enough for cypionate to clear?

[Skinny...In a Big Way]

3 months is NOT enough time to have cyp leave your body. I ran test prop before a fight, had 3 months to let it leave the system, and was fine. my buddy did test cyp, only was off for 3 months and tested positive, all because he didnt wanna inject EOD. dont do Cyp if u dont have atleast 5 months to let it get out of your system

[muscleshark]

Originally Posted by Skinny...In a Big Way

3 months is NOT enough time to have cyp leave your body. I ran test prop before a fight, had 3 months to let it leave the system, and was fine. my buddy did test cyp, only was off for 3 months and tested positive, all because he didnt wanna inject EOD. dont do Cyp if u dont have atleast 5 months to let it get out of your system

thanks alot for your input, test prop and var it is

[R1rider]

Originally Posted by muscleshark

do you think 3 months is actually long enough for cypionate to clear?

Im not sure. Never had to worry about testing

[BIG RED]

Prop and Tren are the choice of anyone who could be tested

[robbocopp]

aqua-test (suspension) ED 100mg

run it up to 3/4 days prior to test. if tested before fight do another injection 1-2 hrs before fight.

[Maverick25]

Originally Posted by robbocopp

aqua-test (suspension) ED 100mg

run it up to 3/4 days prior to test. if tested before fight do another injection 1-2 hrs before fight.

interesting idea...how well does that work??

[Scarz]

Originally Posted by robbocopp

aqua-test (suspension) ED 100mg

run it up to 3/4 days prior to test. if tested before fight do another injection 1-2 hrs before fight.

i like this better than my prop idea.
maverick, it works really well. just keep in mind test is test

[Maverick25]

yeah i hear u there

[robbocopp]

Originally Posted by Maverick25

yeah i hear u there

works incredibly well. You'll want to kill someone, you'll have fits of rage and energy. When you walk in the gym you'll won't feel well if you don't scream out every rep.

I have even done it subQ and IT WORKS. Probably slightly lower absorption - but at 100mgs per day ALL 100% test a 10-15% lower absorption rate wasn't an issue for me. Of course, instead of 1-2 hrs peak level you'll have 3-5 hrs peak level.

Not for the first timer - AND - more expensive. No esters - in 3/4 days it is ALL GONE out of your system. If you don't do HcG your balls WILL shrink.

And remember HCG is detectable in your urine and blood - so you don't get busted for testosterone but you do for HCG.

[1BPV]

Sorry to piggyback here but I'm new and my situation is a little different but you are the guys to ask. Please redirect me if this is wrong.

I'm 55+ years old, world class (champion) in the pole vault. I'm on cyp from my PCP because my levels are only 175 without it - norm is 550. I may have a urine test at world indoors in March. My test level is normal at 562 for my age. Will this show up if my total number is in the mid range? Thanks for tolerating me possibly speaking out of turn or in the wrong place.

[robbocopp]

55+ and still going ... good

yes, they can detect not only the ester - they can look at liver enzymes (all kinds) to detect exogenous use of steroid - they can run immuno-assay tests....all kinds of metabolites and ratios etc...

If it's international competition CYP they'll find REALLY easy ... the best chance you have is testosterone in water - no ester - taken in MODERATE dosages so as NOT to blow ratios out of proportion. But your usage would have to be something like 1/8ml (100mg/mL) per day Sub-q to keep test levels around 600ng/dL.

HCG is also NOT allowed and tested for... but for international competitions EVERYTHING is tested - from diuretics, to AI, to steroids, hell, they will even look at your RBC count and SIZE !!

But, they might even be able to detect water test by looking at other substances used to make the powder .... this has to be a tried and tested scenario.

I am PRETTY sure that for fighting the testing is a LOT LESS STRINGENT.