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Old 11-21-2009, 09:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
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i started my first cycle last saturday 11/14. im only taking deca 550mg/week. im waiting for my sustanon 500 to come in. so i will then run deca and sus for 12 weeks. i also have 2 bottles of equipoise and wondering if i should run that too?? or will the deca/sus be enough??? im 25 years old, liftin for 10 years, and about 8%bf. im very strong but seemed to stop gaining weight when i started to take suboxone for opiate dependance. anyways, some suggestions please would be great. i know the deca and sus might bloat the shit out of me, so would the eq help maintain some of my definition?? thanks. newbie to the gear world!!!!
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Old 11-21-2009, 10:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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How long you been on the deca ? I ask cuz it s gonna shut your test OFF.
I d stop until you get some test....
I d also recommend you only do test 1st time out as you don t know what these compounds will do
If you run multiple compounds and get gyno or ther sides..you wont know which one gave it to you..
Differant compounds need differant countermeasures..
Bloat can controlled with AI s...
PCT will be a must.
You should have all gear in hand before starting..
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Old 11-21-2009, 10:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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you should have waited for the rest of your gear b4 you started.. running deca solo is not recommended
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Old 11-21-2009, 11:38 AM   #4 (permalink)
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yeah,i'd also recommend you stop for now and wait untill you have some test.
As a first cycle you should run test only or if you really wanna use 2 products. you could run a low dose of deca along with your test. and get some clomid/nolva for your pct. In my opinion is the PCT just as important as the cycle itself maybe more...

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If you dont have any patience to start your cycle when you have all gear, AI's, and PCT. Then stay the fuck off it. I dont want another news story coming out of this! Do you know what PCT is? AI?
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yeah,i'd also recommend you stop for now and wait untill you have some test.
As a first cycle you should run test only or if you really wanna use 2 products. you could run a low dose of deca along with your test. and get some clomid/nolva for your pct. In my opinion is the PCT just as important as the cycle itself maybe more...

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Never run Nolva with Deca. Test only for first cycle, no Deca, not even a low dose Imo. U need to see how Ur body is gonna react to Test by itself first. One step at a time is the best way!
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@ Biggin: why shouldn't nolva be run with deca?
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@ Biggin: why shouldn't nolva be run with deca?
It shouldn't be used because nolva will increase the side effects of progesterone!!
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If you dont have any patience to start your cycle when you have all gear, AI's, and PCT. Then stay the fuck off it. I dont want another news story coming out of this! Do you know what PCT is? AI?
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If you dont have any patience to start your cycle when you have all gear, AI's, and PCT. Then stay the fuck off it. I dont want another news story coming out of this! Do you know what PCT is? AI?
Yea I know what it is. I was gonna just do the deca for my first cycle cus millions of people have done it and had great results. Then I started reading how many people suggest taking test with it. I don't need some stranger behind a keyboard swearin at me so stop being a tough Guy. Thanks
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How long you been on the deca ? I ask cuz it s gonna shut your test OFF.
I d stop until you get some test....
I d also recommend you only do test 1st time out as you don t know what these compounds will do
If you run multiple compounds and get gyno or ther sides..you wont know which one gave it to you..
Differant compounds need differant countermeasures..
Bloat can controlled with AI s...
PCT will be a must.
You should have all gear in hand before starting..
I started last Saturday. I really only took the deca cus I tore my delt doing flies like two months ago. It already feels 80% better. Ill get the sust sometime this week so there's no point stopping now. I read a lot of people against deca alone and a lot that are not. I dunno. So what I was asking was about the eq. But ill guess ill keep it for a future cycle.
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Yeah man I would.
It s one of the milder ones and some say its ineffective...however., I do it cuz it s supposed to help you eat, help vascularity..and I got a whole bunch.!!!
I understand pain..and understand your wanting to run deca..but why not play it safe and see how you do on test..you ll be fine...probably..
Then once you ve established you are good with it..run concurrent compounds.??
I cuss a lot when making a point..and I drive my point hard when cycling..I m sure there was no disrespect directed at you personally...Good luck Man !
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