[Beaver50]

Hi guys, i live in Australia where steroids are illegal.

I am 100kgs but have some body fat (8kgs to loose) and that i cant get rid of due to slow metabolism and fucked up thyroid even after doing 45 mins cardio 5 days a week and 1 hr of lifting per day.

I was told stanizol OR Winnstral is its other name i was told is the best product for stripping body fat and cutting up im keen to take it when i go to thailand and cambodia in december for 4 week period.

You can buy it over the counter at chemist there without prescription.

I dont like needles or injections however tabs are cool and i was told you can drink it in liquid form.

I have not taken steroids before and dont know how much to take or when to take it, or for how long.

I suffer from mild depression and am on anti depressant medication for that. Thats why my metabolism is slow i think. I was told stanizol is great to strip body fat and make some small gains.

What side effects occur from stanizol or is there something better that i should get in thai land.

I reaserched it and it supposed to dry out the joints should i take something to counter that side effect like glycosamine and fish oil or something else?

Can alcohol be consumed when taking it?

I also want to know where is a good gym to train in in bangkok?

I dont want to have a bad time with this as im new to it so im asking the pro's who know.

Looking forward to some advice cheers.

[var4me]

The winstrol will dry out your joints and if you are prone to MPB it will be hell on the hairline. It is also harsh on the liver so you should not drink if you decide to take it.

It will also shut down your natural test production so that wont help with the depression or libido.

As for losing weight, Im not sure about the meds or the thyroid problem but I would say that your diet is the culprit. If you burn more calories than you consume, you should lose weight, simple as that.

[fleverglades]

dude - if you get winstrol, also get testosterone cyp or enan to take with it. as to the joints, add 150/week of deca to help counteract winstrol. You also need Arimidex AI during cycle. As for alcohol, it is not good with steroids, but REALLY BAd with 19-a steroids like Winstrol which hurt your liver.

so take 50mg winstrol ED
400/ test every week
150 deca every week
12.5mg Arimidex EOD
10-14 weeks

dont forget pct

[Biggin]

If U don't want to inject, then don't consider AAS usage, period!!!

[ScottyB28]

12.5 mg of Arimidex EOD???? Are you sure about that? I think it should be more like 1mg EOD.

[Shaptown]

Originally Posted by ScottyB28

12.5 mg of Arimidex EOD???? Are you sure about that? I think it should be more like 1mg EOD.

I think he meant to say aromasin, in which case you need to be using it ED not EOD anyway.

Or he meant arimidex at 1mg EOD....

[fleverglades]

1.25 - cmon guys i was only off by a factor of 10 - sorry typo.

I just noticed the "I don't like needles" thing. That sir, is a problem. Oral steroids are much more harmful than injectd ones. That is not a good fear.

[Shaptown]

Dude being off by a factor of 10 gets people killed....