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Old 11-03-2009, 01:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Whish steroid would be good to start with?

Im 6'1 246lbs 26 years old. I have worked out for a while (trained for years for football) just got back into the gym and always wanted to try a steroid. Seriously i eat 6 meals a day with 50+G of protien. Train hard and cannot get that big build of muscle im looking for I have gains but nothing extreme/ I have taken numerious supplements before. My biggest concern is gyno as I have a bit of flab on my chest already. What would be a good cycle and how long with the least chance of a side effect?

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Old 11-03-2009, 02:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I would always say to start with a basic test cycle. See how your body reacts with one compound. Run a full PCT with clomid and nolva and you should be fine. I know its not very exciting but I think its the best route.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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X2 test is best
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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X3 Test is best.I always try and drop BF before starting.Make sure you have all your PCT and anti estrogen on hand.
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Solid advice....test and for pct nolva/clomid combo
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:11 PM   #6 (permalink)
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x4 test is best, i personally love test e, and PCT clomid, 50/50/50/50, and if your worried about gyno then use the research device on this site and research AI's, then you will get all the information you need.
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:21 PM   #7 (permalink)
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X5 thought I'd keep it going....

500mg Test E for 12 weeks is good for a first cycle.


Research these subjects:

PCT. Clomid and/or nolva

HCG and consider running it during your cycle....

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to control estrogen during your cycle and possibly during PCT.

AI's- armidex, aromasin and letro
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:03 PM   #8 (permalink)
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X5 thought I'd keep it going....

500mg Test E for 12 weeks is good for a first cycle.


Research these subjects:

PCT. Clomid and/or nolva

HCG and consider running it during your cycle....

AI's -
to control estrogen during your cycle and possibly during PCT.

AI's- armidex, aromasin and letro
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:19 PM   #9 (permalink)
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But before you get to that step how much flab are we talking?

If you are over weight body fat wise you might want to have a closer look at your health condition before you start a cycle, especially if you're going to take a compound that adds extra unwanted weight.

I'm sure you probably already know the important information already such as your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and such, correct?

this is just some important info to keep in mind as well as what compound you want and pct or anti estrogen, whatever your case may be.
Good luck.
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Old 11-03-2009, 11:52 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Good point...Not only will some compounds add more weight but more BF means more aromatization of Testosterone to Estrogen.

Which would mean more water retention, increased chances of sides like gyno and acne...etc...
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Old 11-04-2009, 04:14 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I would definitely start with a solid Test e cycle, and have the nolva and clomid ready for your pct.
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Test only and nolva/clomid combo for pct. Good advice fellas.
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