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Help Bridge me into PCT
Was wanting something to help maintain strength but dry out a little bit and get a harder look while heading into PCT in the next few weeks.
I was wanting some veteran help on my ideas.
I was thinking of going with
* Winny and clenbuterol
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* Winny and Oxandrolone
I have close to a 3 week period into PCT since I was using long esters, what would be a good combo and at what doses?
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11-02-2009, 10:48 AM
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I'd use Var alone. I don't see any advantage to var and winny. Clen will help you burn fat - if your diet and cardio are in check - but won't do anything if your bulking.
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11-02-2009, 12:05 PM
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i'd use var alone. I don't see any advantage to var and winny. Clen will help you burn fat - if your diet and cardio are in check - but won't do anything if your bulking.
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11-02-2009, 04:30 PM
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var is a better choice than Dbol with less water retention right? my goal going into PCT is to dry out and get those muscles looking harder, You guys think Winny is a waste of time? it doesnt require PCT and IM shots are easy on the liver.
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11-02-2009, 11:58 PM
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I am thinking about doing the same thing. How many mg of anavar should be used per day? Also I am running 8 wks of prop 100mg eod and tren for 6 wks at 300mg a wk. Also when should I start the anavar just durring pct or could I start before?
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11-03-2009, 12:06 AM
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You dont run the var or dbol during PCT. You use them as a "bridge" while waiting to start PCT. With long esters you have to wait 2-3 weeks to start. Some throw a oral in the end of their cycle like winni,anavar,tbol,dbol or even sust or prop to help get you to PCT and keep gaining...
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11-03-2009, 12:11 AM
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I agree bro, var alone. How much are you thinking? I notice a huge difference once I break over 50mg up to 75mg ed.
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11-03-2009, 12:21 AM
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I agree bro, var alone. How much are you thinking? I notice a huge difference once I break over 50mg up to 75mg ed.
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I have never used var I think thats what im gonna bridge to PCT on. what brands do u like?
u think 75mg ED for 3 weeks would sufice for me til i start PCT?
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11-03-2009, 12:28 AM
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3 weeks is a tad short. I'd personally prefer at least 6 weeks of var. As for brands, can't help you there. I never used any names that you will ever see posted, except for IP about 7 years ago, and if was even real, it was under dosed for sure.
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11-03-2009, 12:34 AM
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3 weeks is a tad short. I'd personally prefer at least 6 weeks of var. As for brands, can't help you there. I never used any names that you will ever see posted, except for IP about 7 years ago, and if was even real, it was under dosed for sure.
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So that should be alright since I would have 1 week free of var towards the last week of PCT.
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11-03-2009, 08:13 AM
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You guys think Winny is a waste of time? it doesnt require PCT
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Huh ???????????
Are you kidding or just sadly mistaken ????
You need to run PCT after Winstrol.
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11-03-2009, 08:15 AM
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So that should be alright since I would have 1 week free of var towards the last week of PCT.
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OMG....!!!!!
You can NOT take steroids during PCT, that defies the whole purpose of PCT.
You need to start researching things, I really thought you were more educated when it came to steroid usage, obviously I was wrong.
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11-03-2009, 12:04 PM
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I really thought you were more educated when it came to steroid usage, obviously I was wrong.
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11-03-2009, 03:23 PM
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Ouch, I know about the compounds I am using but not about the other compounds.
Var does not aromatise or hold water so I think it would be a decent choice to bridge into PCT whil im on nothing, as long as the dosages are not enough to inhibit natural HPTA function I should be alright?
Sorry to let you fellas down, I have maybe 8-9 weeks experience with aas and the research behind that is merely internet reading which can be misleading.
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11-03-2009, 03:37 PM
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Yes, var is ideal as a "bridge" while waiting to start PCT.
Do you understand this alumni?
When you bridge into PCT you use the "Var" up till the week before you start PCT.
Usually though its a good idea to use it about 5-6 weeks at the end.
Example 12 week cycle and using Var for a "Bridge":
Wks 1-12 500mg Test E
Wks 10-14 Anavar 50mg ED
Weeks 15-18 PCT...
Etc..etc...
(You're waiting for the Test E ester to clear so you can start PCT... Var has a shorter Half-life and is outa your system quickly so you can run it up till the day before you start....)
I just figured you didnt word your response correctly....
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11-03-2009, 08:05 PM
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Yes, var is ideal as a "bridge" while waiting to start PCT.
Do you understand this alumni?
When you bridge into PCT you use the "Var" up till the week before you start PCT.
Usually though its a good idea to use it about 5-6 weeks at the end.
Example 12 week cycle and using Var for a "Bridge":
Wks 1-12 500mg Test E
Wks 10-14 Anavar 50mg ED
Weeks 15-18 PCT...
Etc..etc...
(You're waiting for the Test E ester to clear so you can start PCT... Var has a shorter Half-life and is outa your system quickly so you can run it up till the day before you start....)
I just figured you didnt word your response correctly....
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Thats what I had in my head, I dont want anything fouling my natty HPTA while on PCT.
If I start now with the Var that gives me time for it to work and be off it and clear of aas a week before PCT and 3 weeks free of long ester before PCT
Brothers I am a newbi thats why im here to steal your knowledge 
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11-03-2009, 08:09 PM
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OMG....!!!!!
You can NOT take steroids during PCT, that defies the whole purpose of PCT.
You need to start researching things, I really thought you were more educated when it came to steroid usage, obviously I was wrong.
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Damn when I read this i i get all emo 
say something nice now Mr. you to newbie23
like, "its okay bud, thats why were here to help you" 
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11-03-2009, 08:14 PM
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Thats what I had in my head, I dont want anything fouling my natty HPTA while on PCT.
If I start now with the Var that gives me time for it to work and be off it and clear of aas a week before PCT and 3 weeks free of long ester before PCT
Brothers I am a newbi thats why im here to steal your knowledge
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What all you running for your cycle now alumni? Is it still the test and deca? You still running the mix of test E and P?
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11-03-2009, 08:49 PM
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Damn when I read this i i get all emo
say something nice now Mr. you to newbie23
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LOL-your good bro-i just didnt realize you were a newbie like myself. i think we talked about bridging in another thread-so i just thought we were on the same page.
I learn here everyday-every time i think i got it all figured out-i learn otherwise. so we are all here to help.
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11-03-2009, 09:54 PM
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What all you running for your cycle now alumni? Is it still the test and deca? You still running the mix of test E and P?
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thats it, test e/c/p and a low consistent deca dose, with AI's EOD and HCG 2x a week.
no titty milk and no tity pain, but I have always had slighlty puffy nips but not bitch like, I think its from BF/water.
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11-03-2009, 09:57 PM
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LOL-your good bro-i just didnt realize you were a newbie like myself. i think we talked about bridging in another thread-so i just thought we were on the same page.
I learn here everyday-every time i think i got it all figured out-i learn otherwise. so we are all here to help.
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hell yeah bro now i feel awsome, not in a take our shirts off and kiss kind of way (NO HOMO) but a you understand me broski kind of way.
-Cheers brother 
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It's OK....I really did think you had more experience, and that's why I was a little harsh.....sorry bro, it's all good.
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It's OK....I really did think you had more experience, and that's why I was a little harsh.....sorry bro, it's all good.
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no worries, Im always ready to learn something new. I see all you guys here as a source of knowledge.
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11-03-2009, 11:23 PM
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thats it, test e/c/p and a low consistent deca dose, with AI's EOD and HCG 2x a week.
no titty milk and no tity pain, but I have always had slighlty puffy nips but not bitch like, I think its from BF/water.
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Ok then... you need to quit the Deca 3 weeks before PCT. Test E/C 2 weeks before
Test P 1 week before
SO you already kinda have a bridge in place alumni... just drop the deca, then the next week drop the test C/e, then the next drop the P, then wait a week then start PCT...
You are set IMO...
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Ok then... you need to quit the Deca 3 weeks before PCT. Test E/C 2 weeks before
Test P 1 week before
SO you already kinda have a bridge in place alumni... just drop the deca, then the next week drop the test C/e, then the next drop the P, then wait a week then start PCT...
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