[abstraktni]

Please help as I have problems with hair loss and I went to Cycle Dianabol 40 mg / day + 500mg testosterone enanthat week.

Can dutasterid (generic Avodart, etc.) to prevent hair loss at Kure with Dianabol.
I tried with Finasteride (generic Proscar, Propecia), but does not help.


Dianabol converts dihydro methandrostenolone in this connection is apparently more difficult than a regular dryer DHT but is concerned steroids in very small quantities into it and should not be a problem.

Can Dutasterid which blocks both the enzyme 5 alpha reduktazu, type 1 and type 2 block the conversion of DHT dianabola in his form, ie, whether to use Dianabol 5ar 1 enzyme converts the shape DHT.

I have not managed to find a way to perform such a conversion would really help me a lot

[THE-DET-OAK]

finasteride will not make you grow new hair-it just helps to prevent new hair loss. you have to take finasteride for a long time in order for it to work. how long did you tak it for? should start 8 weeks before cycle or something-i hear Dbol is the worst on hair.

[tommygunn1]

i take minoxidil 5mg a day in the pill form, and seems to work great

[Scarz]

Originally Posted by abstraktni

Please help as I have problems with hair loss and I went to Cycle Dianabol 40 mg / day + 500mg testosterone enanthat week.

Can dutasterid (generic Avodart, etc.) to prevent hair loss at Kure with Dianabol.
I tried with Finasteride (generic Proscar, Propecia), but does not help.


Dianabol converts dihydro methandrostenolone in this connection is apparently more difficult than a regular dryer DHT but is concerned steroids in very small quantities into it and should not be a problem.

Can Dutasterid which blocks both the enzyme 5 alpha reduktazu, type 1 and type 2 block the conversion of DHT dianabola in his form, ie, whether to use Dianabol 5ar 1 enzyme converts the shape DHT.

I have not managed to find a way to perform such a conversion would really help me a lot

its the test you have to worry about, not so much the dbol. to be in the safe zone keep the dbol dose low between 20-35mg.

to answer your question about dutasteride, no it won't. dbol sides are increased with its dose. opposing many people misconception, it has a small effect on hairloss. however if you increase the dose, you increase that side. dut will help with the hair loss from test. but start with finasteride...atleast 2 weeks prior to cycle. keep in mind once you start finasteride, you're pronounced husband and wife. its a lifetime commitment, if you stop the usage, you will lose whatever gains you've made from it.

Originally Posted by newbie23

finasteride will not make you grow new hair-it just helps to prevent new hair loss. you have to take finasteride for a long time in order for it to work. how long did you tak it for? should start 8 weeks before cycle or something-i hear Dbol is the worst on hair.

nah, 2-4 weeks prior to cycle is sufficient timing. dbol is far from worst on hair. test and tren are the biggest threats.

Originally Posted by tommygunn1

i take minoxidil 5mg a day in the pill form, and seems to work great

thats crazy

[JMC]

Scarz,

I take finasteride .5mg ED

Once you take It and decide to do a TEST/DECA cycle or TEST/TREN cycle should you go off?

I just read tonight that Finasteride + Deca will INCREASE hair loss.

-JMC

[Scarz]

yeh man. if you take deca without finasteride then you're okay, because deca does not accelerate hair loss. HOWEVER, believe it or not, the combincation of deca and finasteride will murder your hair. best advise....stay away from deca. I do.

As far as tren goes, it's another one I stay away from. There's no need for me to compromise my hair when i can easily replace tren and/or deca with other gear and get just as good results. Tren is very very bad on the hair and finasteride's daddy couldnt stop tren from raping your hair. stay away from it =)

finasteride will be very helpful while on test.
the best way to fight hair loss, on or off cycle, is to attack it from every angle. finasteride inhibits dht in blood levels but you should also use a topical to attack the dht topically. an anti-inflammatory will be very helpful as well.

[Scarz]

Originally Posted by JMC

Scarz,

I take finasteride .5mg ED

Once you take It and decide to do a TEST/DECA cycle or TEST/TREN cycle should you go off?

I just read tonight that Finasteride + Deca will INCREASE hair loss.

-JMC

one more thing. no i suggest you don't go off. if you go off finasteride your test will destroy the little village of hair on your scalp. stay in finsteride , but stay away from tren and deca.

[JMC]

Originally Posted by Scarz

one more thing. no i suggest you don't go off. if you go off finasteride your test will destroy the little village of hair on your scalp. stay in finsteride , but stay away from tren and deca.

Dam, my next cycle was going to be T Bol, Test P and NPP.

What do you think?

Originally Posted by Scarz

you should also use a topical to attack the dht topically. an anti-inflammatory will be very helpful as well.

Naproxen good for a anti-inflammatory?

[Scarz]

Originally Posted by JMC

Dam, my next cycle was going to be T Bol, Test P and NPP.

What do you think?




Naproxen good for a anti-inflammatory?

you should be okay with tbol.
npp is a no no. npp is just like deca except contrary to deca it has a short ester and retents water to a much lesser degree.

lmao at naproxen. i should have been more clear sorry lol. no that's a totally different thing. nizoral shampoo with 2% ketokonazole is a very good anti-inflammatory AND studies ahve shown it also inhibits dht. Recommended usage is 3 times per week, leave in hair 5-7 minutes then wash out.

The BIG 3 is the greatest combo for hair loss.

Finasteride (dht inhibitor, regrowth)

Nizoral 2% (anti-inflammatory, topical dht inhibitor, excellent for flakes and dandruff)

Minoxidil 5% (growth stimulant and regrowth)

They all work synergetically. They enhances eachother's effectiveness as opposed to using them alone.

[JMC]

Thanks for the info Scarz

[avangel]

why does deca and finesteride combined cause hair loss?
I have no idea if it does or not but certainly have taken interest in this topic cause I'm just getting ready to run an npp, test(sustanon or prop, haven't decided which yet) and t bol cycle.
I appreciate all input I hear on this from everyone.

I just read somewhere that deca alone with finesteride is not a good combo(deca no good alone period) but if your mixing test then your far better off with finesteide then without it. (assuming you are predisposed to mpb)
The author of this article states the mechanics behind this. I can pm anyone the info on this topic.

I have a feeling this could be another great debate topic.
Sux for me, I suspect my mpb has come from my mother and not my father, thanks alot

[robbocopp]

1. Finasteride - will stop the action of 5-alpha reductase (two sub isoenzymes I and II one more active peripherally, another in brain etc...) from converting testosterone into DHT. This means that in peripheral tissue in your scalp your hair FOLLICLES will have LESS DHT to worry about. That's the GOOD NEWS - it will stop hair loss.

It will NOT cause regrowth except in limited sense - follicles do NOT just fall out - they go through phases before finally falling out - get "skinnier" and "weaker" and finally stop growing. In some of these phases the hair is very thin, very light - these hairs could begin to grow again fully - it will LOOK like more hair is growing.

I can tell you that there are SCORES of men who complain about lowered testosterone levels, who complain that it crashed their t3/t4 levels (hypothyroidism) and on and on. My personal experience LONG-TERM (3-5years) is very negative.

2. Minoxidil is a (english ??? "vasodilatator") meaning it increases blood flow. Minimal effect on hair loss.

In general terms, you are putting a whole lot of exogenous gear into your body - don't add another one for the sole reason to save your hair. It will go away ... shave it and tell people you're a swimmer

[Scarz]

mind if i tweak it a little...

Originally Posted by robbocopp

1. Finasteride - will stop the action of 5-alpha reductase (two sub isoenzymes I and II one more active peripherally, another in brain etc...) from converting testosterone into DHT. This means that in peripheral tissue in your scalp your hair FOLLICLES will have LESS DHT to worry about. That's the GOOD NEWS - it will stop hair loss.

It will NOT cause regrowth except in limited sense - follicles do NOT just fall out - they go through phases before finally falling out - get "skinnier" and "weaker" and finally stop growing. In some of these phases the hair is very thin, very light - these hairs could begin to grow again fully - it will LOOK like more hair is growing.

Multiple medical studies for over a decade prove finasteride regrows hair, let alone thicken and halting the hair loss.

I can tell you that there are SCORES of men who complain about lowered testosterone levels, who complain that it crashed their t3/t4 levels (hypothyroidism) and on and on.

Where did you get this information from?

My personal experience LONG-TERM (3-5years) is very negative.

Ok. That's it? Just negative? What happened? In very few individuals it shows side effects. Like less than 5% of the men on finasteride? Maybe you were one of the unlucky ones.

2. Minoxidil is a (english ??? "vasodilatator") meaning it increases blood flow. Minimal effect on hair loss.

Absolute rubbish. There's not a brain in this world that knows how exactly minoxidil works. But what they do know, again proven through not only medical studies and journals but a VAAAAAAAAAAAAST number of people using minoxidil - it thickens and regrows hair for a fact. It can revive follicles that have been dormant up to 3-4 years!

In general terms, you are putting a whole lot of exogenous gear into your body - don't add another one for the sole reason to save your hair. It will go away ... shave it and tell people you're a swimmer

Don't tell someone to give up the fight on their hair loss based on nothing. hair loss is like a damn disease. It can have a detrimental impact on a man's confidence, self esteem, and life in general. maybe you're okay with rocking a bald head, many are, but many aren't. To tell someone to stop fighting hair loss because you're going to lose it anyway is the worst advise you can give. If you can't help, then it's better not to say anything at all. If you can halt and significantly slow down or even stop your hairloss for 10-20 yrs, then why not do it? I'd rather have hair in my 20's and 30's, and by 40's either there will be a cure or "oh well, fuck it". The years my physical appearance means most to me is the yrs I'd rather have hair.

[robbocopp]

so, hair-loss is NOT a disease - rather it means your hair follicles have been genetically predisposed to be sensitive to DHT. A disease would imply that a.) there could be a cure or b.) that something went "wrong" ... rather hair loss is like brown hair vs. blond hair a genetic predisposition.

Dormant means just what I said - "dormant" doesn't really exist since follicles don't sleep - they grow in cycles.

What finasteride DOES DO is what you (and I) said - allows follicles which have been damaged but not completely destroyed to start growing again. There is NOTHING that helps once a hair follicle has died and completely stopped growing (cause it actually falls out and no longer exists).

Last - I would LOVE to find something (like stem cell transfer) that works for hair loss. In the meantime, I would NOT advise anyone to take an enzyme inhibitor which can (doesn't necessarily but I don't buy the 5% advertised by pharma co's) mess with your testosterone levels JUST to have more hair.

Even if the risk is only 5-10% seems stopping hair loss isn't worth the risk. Buy a toupee, get a transplant, use Minoxidil (cause it doesn't hurt - although on the prospect it actually says in SOME individuals it will CAUSE hair loss)

Of course, it's my opinion and if you want .. up the dosage ... tell me how it goes. Go 5-10mg / day --- you'll have a full head of hair, limp dick and, if you're lucky, nice tits (don't flame me in their prospect it mentions gynomastia as a possible side effect). Just don't post later like 100 others saying "my test level is crap and I'm limp" how can I get it going again.

[skinnycartman]

Well Scarz, you really seem to know what you are talking about!

When i was much younger ( way to young) i did 2 cycles of dianabol only and took up to 100mg of Dbol a day ...and on the second cycle i have lost some hair ( the m-shape).
today i am still working out but mainly boxing, not to much weight and lots of push ups, jump squats etc..

i want to gain some weight but it is really hard and i dont need to gai nthat much, so i tought about taking a really low dosage of Dbol, 10mg a day for only a few weeks, like 4 max. and see what happens....

BUt, my biggest concern is hairloss, i dont want to loose anymore than i have lost allready! should it be a concern in your opinion?

thank your for your time!

Regards

[Scarz]

Take test and u can prvent ure hairloss while on it. Much safer and smarter than dbol 10mg only, and u cant prevent hair loss from dbol if ure predisposed with mpb.

[skinnycartman]

how can test prevent the dbol hairloss?

[skinnycartman]

is dbol harsher on the hair then winny or lets say mdrol? in low dosages i mean

[stevonov]

Hey Scarz a little confused about test and dbol effects on hairloss. I thought you said in another post that dbol wasnt as hard on the hair as test? i am predisposed to mpb, on propecia and trt and want to add dbol. What can I expect?

[hellawaits77]

Generally, Dbol is rough on the hair. Test can be rough on the hair in high doses, but it can be stopped (to an extenet) w/ finasteride. Do some research here, lot's of threads about hair loss.

A popular hair-safe stack is Test E or C in a moderate dose stacked w/ Anavar. I'm doing a Test E/Anavar cycle shortly, and am using rogaine, nizoral 2% shampoo, on have finasteride on the way. Using those 3 things to try to keep all muh hair. LOT's of info here on this!!!

[Scarz]

Originally Posted by skinnycartman

how can test prevent the dbol hairloss?

20-25mg of dbol is usually a safe dose. or don't take dbol.

Originally Posted by skinnycartman

is dbol harsher on the hair then winny or lets say mdrol? in low dosages i mean

dose dependant by I'd say no compared with winny.

Originally Posted by stevonov

Hey Scarz a little confused about test and dbol effects on hairloss. I thought you said in another post that dbol wasnt as hard on the hair as test? i am predisposed to mpb, on propecia and trt and want to add dbol. What can I expect?

Test is worst on the hair when you're NOT taking a dht inhibitor like finasteride.

Originally Posted by hellawaits77

Generally, Dbol is rough on the hair. Test can be rough on the hair in high doses, but it can be stopped (to an extenet) w/ finasteride. Do some research here, lot's of threads about hair loss.

A popular hair-safe stack is Test E or C in a moderate dose stacked w/ Anavar. I'm doing a Test E/Anavar cycle shortly, and am using rogaine, nizoral 2% shampoo, on have finasteride on the way. Using those 3 things to try to keep all muh hair. LOT's of info here on this!!!

Start your treatments a few weeks before you start your cycle.

[skinnycartman]

Ok, nice

So if i understood everything well , Dianabol around 20-25 mg would not give me much hairloss, so 10 mg even less!

Well that is what i wanted to know, i dont really like other stuffbecause i tried Anavar once and it made me depressed as hell! Dbol made me happy!

[John102london]

shave ur head and tell people ur a swimmer lol... a 260 pound swimmer hahahhaha!!!

No but seriously.. fuck im 23 and im losing my hair.. and its just natural.. sometimes u just gota take the good with the bad shave ur head and live with it..

ive searched the internet over and over looking for somthing to grow hair but i keep coming up empty.. im pretty sure the only thing is to get surgery (plugs) or whatever they are