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Old 07-06-2009, 07:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a question. I often see Gear Veterans use the words "it will shut you down." Like for example, in one of my past post on another web site, the Gear Veteran was answering my question about why you shouldnt use Fina/Tren 80 in your first cycle. Then he answered, "because it will shut you down, shut you down hard." I wanna know what he's referring to with "shut down". Please. Because I'm assuming he's referring to your natural testo shutting down. IF thats the case, isnt steroids SUPPOSE to do that anyway? I mean, thats why you do pct at the end, to get your natural testo working again. Right? (As a side note: he adviced if I wasnt going to use any testo with Tren, to atleast use Proviron. Was he right? )
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is this your first cycle and if so why the f**k are you useing tren....tren is avery potent anabolic/androgenic steroid..its about 4 to 5 times more androgenic than test...lots of sides with this drug eg;high blood pressure, bad anxitey trouble sleeping.
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:43 AM   #3 (permalink)
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is this your first cycle and if so why the f**k are you useing tren....tren is avery potent anabolic/androgenic steroid..its about 4 to 5 times more androgenic than test...lots of sides with this drug eg;high blood pressure, bad anxitey trouble sleeping.
To be fair the guy said he wasn't using it he was asking why you shouln't use it in your first cycle.

IMO the Vet on the other board was just trying to get it accross to you how potent tren is and that it is not a drug for new users.

Stick to a test only for the first but if you do your research here and at other boards you will see why this is standard accepted practice for a first cycle.
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Old 07-06-2009, 02:10 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I appreciate the feedback :-) That wasnt my question though. I was refering to Gear Veterans occasionally saying "it will shut you down". But Tren wasnt my question (ME-FIEND). I used the Tren example/story as a sample of Gear Veterans using the term "it will shut you down". What does "shut you down" refer to? "Shut" what down? Your capacity to produce normal testo?? Thats my question. If AGAIN my question is misunderstood, just forget about it lol Peace
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Oh by the way, I will NOT use Tren. So theres no confusion. I'm terrified of the aggression/anxiety side aspect. Scary stuff. If anything, once I loose weight, I'm contemplating sustanon/equip for 12. For now, thats atleast 3 to 6 months away. I'm just gathering information for future purposes. Thank you :-)
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ya i understand your question but im not familuar wit yhe phrase "it will shut you down"but like u said ur self it sounds like shut down ur own test levels.hope this helps....you just said ur going useing eq in ur next cycle im hopeing to my self just trying to find out if its legit stuuff maybe youve heard of it tech labs 200mg in a 10 ml bottle
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Shut u down means, to shut ur HPTA down. Shut ur natural test levels down.
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If u thinkin about running Eq u need to run it for min. 14-16 weeks. Dosage needs to be pumped at 800mgs/week min. to see any profound results.
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Shut u down means, to shut ur HPTA down. Shut ur natural test levels down.
Correct.

Tren is an extremely strong androgen that shuts down the HPTA very quickly. For all practical purposes though, all AAS shuts down the HPTA and once it's shut down during a cycle it's all the same thing.
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Biggin: whooaa! :-) Thats my newbie reaction :-) 800 mg a week of equip? Before, I thought 400 mg would be enough, but you're the gear guru, not me. I was thinking 250mg a week of sustanon and 400 of equip, to get a hard look. I dont wanna go crazy. If that was the case, I'd use prop or cyp. But thank you for the responces to all. Dumbly, I've been focusing mostly on this board to get all my answers without realizing theres tons of other forums on this same web site. Peace dudes.
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Sorry, dont mean to bother you guys anymore. I'd like to be cleared on something, if possible. Besides Tren being the worse at it, since all steroids tend to "shut down" the htpa levels, is it a big deal while you're on a cycle? At the conclusion you'll be taking pct to restore htpa, right? Just curious on the consequences of your htpa being shut down while you're on a cycle. Thats all. Then again, I can probably research articles about it on this website :-) Peace guys. Thanks.
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U answered ur own question. That is what pct is for. Brings everything back to normal bro.
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Cool Biggins. So in conclusion, that means I dont have to panic if my hpta gets "shut down" during a cycle. PCT will restore it, eventually. Thanks dude. Peace all.
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Cool Biggins. So in conclusion, that means I dont have to panic if my hpta gets "shut down" during a cycle. PCT will restore it, eventually. Thanks dude. Peace all.
some steroids have a rep for being harder to recover your natural test from . tren and deca have the worst rep. eq isnt to bad imo.
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