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    Test 350 and Deca cycle
    This is my first cycle. I intend to to take 1ml of each per week.
    If anyone has a better idea of how to do this cycle,your help would be welcome.
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    see the responses to a post today by ShakeR

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    I was taking the deca as I have bad joints, What Iv'e been told this helps

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    That does NOT change anything about what we are telling you. This is your FIRST cycle.....do NOT stack.
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    If I were to just take test, How much do you suggest then

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    350-400mg/week
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneColdNTO View Post
    350-400mg/week
    For 12 weeks I take it. What gains can I expect from this then. What do you suggest for PCT?

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    No one can predict your gains....there are way too many variables involved including how close you are to your genetic limit, your diet, training, rest, just to name a few.


    PCT...Clomid is best; 100mg/day for 10 days followed by 50mg/day for another 10 days
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    How long would you recommend I wait to start post cycle therapy (pct) after last injection then

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    What would you say if I decided to run the deca with the test anyway.
    Would you still give me advice on how to take it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hill90 View Post
    What would you say if I decided to run the deca with the test anyway.
    Would you still give me advice on how to take it?
    Nope....and now you are wasting my time.

    Good luck with what ever you decide.
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    Hill90... Test/Deca is a very effective stack, but it is HIGHLY advised not to use both compounds for a first cycle. As StoneCold has already suggested, run 350-400mg/wk of Test for 10-12 weeks and put the Deca in a drawer for use down the road. The reason we advise against using more than one compound for a first cycle is because if you encounter a negative side effect, you may not know which compound is causing it. Testosterone is more than sufficient in providing all the gains you could possibly want for a first cycle.

    If you need to use Deca because of joint issue, you may want to re-evaluate cycling right now and get that figured out first.

    Hope this helps and you make a good decision.

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    Ok guys you win. I have to be honest i have already ran 1ml of each for the first two weeks. Can I just stop the deca now and keep taking the test.

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    Sorry mods but you know what im about to tell this guy... hill90, here is what I 'think' about your situation... especially if you have bad joint run the deca cause test only cycles can cause joints and tendons to get worse, this happened to me recently actually but i starting taking a good dose of Glucosamine/Condroiten and it does help with the joints. the truth is lots of guys stack more than 1 steroid for their first cycle and they are just fine and if you get a certain side effect you can usually narrow it down based off the known properties of the different steroids. plus deca is a great steroids for looking big and mass while ur on it. i love deca.

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    gear for life. What you suggest I do then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hill90 View Post
    gear for life. What you suggest I do then.
    Just answer this for me. Does 1 ml of each sound ok. Should I increase it after a month or so? If so what do you recommend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearForLife View Post
    if you get a certain side effect you can usually narrow it down based off the known properties of the different steroids.
    How would you do that with Test and Deca??

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    Quote Originally Posted by hill90 View Post
    Just answer this for me. Does 1 ml of each sound ok. Should I increase it after a month or so? If so what do you recommend?
    You have not given us the mg/ml of the Deca.

    I'd stop the Deca now because you have not used much of it (2ml's I assume) and you could save it for down the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkDaScow View Post
    You have not given us the mg/ml of the Deca.

    I'd stop the Deca now because you have not used much of it (2ml's I assume) and you could save it for down the road.
    200mg - 1ml deca. So you agree with stone cold and I should take 350- 400 ml test then

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    Quote Originally Posted by hill90 View Post
    200mg - 1ml deca. So you agree with stone cold and I should take 350- 400 ml test then
    Simply put yes. Plus, 200mg/wk of Deca isn't going to do much for you at all. It is recommended to use 2mg/lb of body weight per week. So unless you are 100lbs, that dose isn't going to yield anything more than Test alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkDaScow View Post
    Simply put yes. Plus, 200mg/wk of Deca isn't going to do much for you at all. It is recommended to use 2mg/lb of body weight per week. So unless you are 100lbs, that dose isn't going to yield anything more than Test alone.
    Would you advise to take the 400 mg at once or 200 twice per week

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneColdNTO View Post
    No one can predict your gains....there are way too many variables involved including how close you are to your genetic limit, your diet, training, rest, just to name a few.


    PCT...Clomid is best; 100mg/day for 10 days followed by 50mg/day for another 10 days

    Sorry for asking( trying to learn ) but why do you only recomend clomid for TPC when i read in almost posts/foruns that nolvadex + clomid is the best to keep all gains and tpc?

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