Introduction from a guy who got busted...

[tajwolgram]

Originally Posted by MOE from H.P.

i too did a report on steroids in my ninth grade science class. i felt so special...so different....fuck ya LOL

How old are you? Was yours more recent than mine? lol

[big12]

Originally Posted by Ozzy27

So what was the total amount you got busted for? I've heard guys getting popped for a rather large amount and wound up with probation. Just curious

I've heard of situations like this as well. A friend of a friend of mine got busted driving under the influence, with a gun in the car. He also had weed and about 200 tabs of dbol.

All things considered I believe he only got a slap on the wrist for it. I don't believe he did any jail time and if he did, it was no more than a week or two.

My friend told me that with steroids, there is a certain number of tabs that you can have where if you get caught it's considered personal use instead of intent to sell. I don't know the exact number though

[tajwolgram]

Originally Posted by big12

I've heard of situations like this as well. A friend of a friend of mine got busted driving under the influence, with a gun in the car. He also had weed and about 200 tabs of dbol.

All things considered I believe he only got a slap on the wrist for it. I don't believe he did any jail time and if he did, it was no more than a week or two.

My friend told me that with steroids, there is a certain number of tabs that you can have where if you get caught it's considered personal use instead of intent to sell. I don't know the exact number though

That's TRUE in my experience... I was initially charged with Posession, Possession with Intent to Distribute, and Distribution. The 2nd charge is the one in which the volume or quantity is important. If you have a certain amount, even if it's for personal use, they can charge you with 'intent to distribute.'

T
PS - I am starting to feel like an old Guru, but my soul still feels young!

[big12]

Do you know if the amount varies from state to state, or is it a federal law?

[tajwolgram]

Originally Posted by big12

Do you know if the amount varies from state to state, or is it a federal law?

I really don't know. The DEA dropped their case against me and gave it to the State of Colorado bc it was too small. It was like 16 years ago, so I forget some of the details and remember them later. I remember that I didn't have a lawyer and in the little room outside the courtroom, the D.A. looking all surprised when I said I was pleading guilty bc I did it. They were 'astonished.' And they offered me a deal anyway. I said I would plead guilty to all counts. They insisted that I should plead guilty to the one count. They thought I was a nice kid. I was. And I wrote a STRONG outline for the judge and spoke from the heart about my insecurities and such, and she gave me the probation and 60 days work release. I was surprised about the work release and reminded her that I had a job. She started to get mad and chastise me and I apologized profusely. And she stuck with the original sentence... I think she died suddenly a several years ago. Weird how much death has accompanied my steroid situation. Her last name was Polidori or Palmieri. Both were judges during the process. The one at the sentencing had blonde hair. The other was a brunette.

T

PS -- AND I got off probation after like 2 years bc they couldn't even test for steroids in Jeffco at the time. And I didn't drink or use rec drugs. I was a model probationer. lol

[JayC]

Originally Posted by tajwolgram

It's been a very long time for me and people get stuff shipped through the mail. It's a different ball game now.

And I'm 36 and I am just getting done with my second divorce and want to get as muscular as I can so I can have something over the younger cats. I understand the skeptisism, though.

T

If by different ball game you mean harder and stiffer punishements, you would be correct.
..and the above is a horrible reason to start using gear again.

[Alozade]

cosmetic surgery if you will

[Perfection Awaits]

Originally Posted by JayC

If by different ball game you mean harder and stiffer punishements, you would be correct.
..and the above is a horrible reason to start using gear again.

My thoughts exactly. They are more strict than ever. If you got busted again with previous charges you would be fucked. Think about it...

[jonk430]

Originally Posted by Perfection Awaits

My thoughts exactly. They are more strict than ever. If you got busted again with previous charges you would be fucked. Think about it...

I agree fully.

[Flapjack]

Hehehe, I remember those little blue D-bols from Germany. First thing ever used...and yes, i was wayyy too young. Took it in high school back in 89 while playing football. Steroids became big around here after the Ben Johnson scandal/farce.

[Flapjack]

Originally Posted by Perfection Awaits

My thoughts exactly. They are more strict than ever. If you got busted again with previous charges you would be fucked. Think about it...

Hahah, living your life scared of "the man". Not very American you know...

[tajwolgram]

Originally Posted by Flapjack

Hahah, living your life scared of "the man". Not very American you know...

Probably not the best advice, though... I just read on steroidlawdotcom that as of the 28th, they passed a bill increasing the punishment for those who want to look better, get bigger, feel younger, throw harder, run faster, jump higher, etc.

Penalties did not change for those who want to sit around all day getting high and feeling fucked up. lol

T

[Perfection Awaits]

Originally Posted by Flapjack

Hahah, living your life scared of "the man". Not very American you know...

Breaking the law is the one thing that can ruin your life more than anything else.

[Perfection Awaits]

Originally Posted by tajwolgram

Probably not the best advice, though... I just read on steroidlawdotcom that as of the 28th, they passed a bill increasing the punishment for those who want to look better, get bigger, feel younger, throw harder, run faster, jump higher, etc.

Penalties did not change for those who want to sit around all day getting high and feeling fucked up. lol

T

It's sad how there priorities are set...

[Flapjack]

Originally Posted by Perfection Awaits

Breaking the law is the one thing that can ruin your life more than anything else.

True, but to be honest with you, EVERYBODY breaks the law, everyday.

From simple little thing like, spitting your gum on the ground, driving 5 mph over the speed limit, having a glass of wine at lunch and then driving back to work, smoking a joint in you living room, j walking, yalk on the phone while driving, not wearing your seatbelt. And most people don't even realize they are doing it.

I take steroids, but I'm not a bad person...in fact, most pepole think I'm a great guy...including my wife and 4 year old daughter who love me very much. I live an honest life and go to work every day. I pay my taxes, I don' drink or smoke and live a realitivly healthy lifestyle.

But I'm the "bad guy" cause I'm a "juice pig"?

The government needs to open thier fucking eyes. Mexico sells it over the counter and they have no problems there. Canada and the US just want to be able to dictate what we can and can't do...

[tajwolgram]

Originally Posted by Flapjack

True, but to be honest with you, EVERYBODY breaks the law, everyday.

From simple little thing like, spitting your gum on the ground, driving 5 mph over the speed limit, having a glass of wine at lunch and then driving back to work, smoking a joint in you living room, j walking, yalk on the phone while driving, not wearing your seatbelt. And most people don't even realize they are doing it.

I take steroids, but I'm not a bad person...in fact, most pepole think I'm a great guy...including my wife and 4 year old daughter who love me very much. I live an honest life and go to work every day. I pay my taxes, I don' drink or smoke and live a realitivly healthy lifestyle.

But I'm the "bad guy" cause I'm a "juice pig"?

The government needs to open thier fucking eyes. Mexico sells it over the counter and they have no problems there. Canada and the US just want to be able to dictate what we can and can't do...

I can't say this for a FACT, but I'd be willing to place a small bet that the main guy who was in charge of the steroid legislation got some sand kicked in his face by a guy named Charles Atlas. lol

DUDE... Don't you get it? You ARE a bad guy for trying to develop thicker pecs and bowling ball delts! lol

I'm cracking myself up today.

T

[meso-rx]

Originally Posted by tajwolgram

I can't say this for a FACT, but I'd be willing to place a small bet that the main guy who was in charge of the steroid legislation got some sand kicked in his face by a guy named Charles Atlas. lol

DUDE... Don't you get it? You ARE a bad guy for trying to develop thicker pecs and bowling ball delts! lol

I'm cracking myself up today.

T

Joseph Biden was the architect and author of the Anabolic Steroid Control Acts of 1990 and 2004. He admitted he got sand kicked in his face (so to speak) - this was featured in the documentary "Bigger Stronger Faster"

[sean usmc]

Originally Posted by tajwolgram

Well... I started juicing when I was 16. I was taking the little blue methandrostenolone tabs from Germany that were going around at the time.

I started competing in the Colorado High School contest when I was 16.


During my teen years, this guy in his early 20s would get juice for some of us.

When I was 19, I was a top teen, but my boss owned a couple of gyms and found out I was involved with gear and fired me. So I dropped out of my upcoming contests. I had just taken 2nd in an AAU event in the men's middleweight (up to 185 if I remember correctly) to a guy who would go on to become a very well known state level bodybuilder who was like 10 years older than me.

When I was 19, I was taking 6 different drugs at once. I was doing TestP site injections due to John Parrillo's muscle fascia planing theories. I thought that the swelling from TestP would stretch the fascia like a balloon. The first time, I took 2 ccs in my left triceps. I thought I was gonna have to get my arm amputated it hurt so bad for so long.

I also used an insulin needle in my chest... can't remember the drug, but it ended up being too short of a needle and it went subcutaneous. LOL... Talk about BURNING... and it lasted forever. It wasn't winstrol or suspension, either. It was oil based. It burned like HELL!

One of my good buddies in that contest became a top National Level bodybuilder. He died in February from an accidental pain killer overdose from a car accident.

So... I lost my job and was actually working as a security guard and we would drive down to Juarez and put the stuff into our messy car. We didn't get searched.

The final time, I went with a buddy who was an auto mechanic and we actually hid the juice in engine compartments.

We were just doing it to basically get our gear for free.

So... going back a little bit... This guy that was selling me stuff when I was 16-18 had disappeared. He called a buddy of mine and said he worked in Alaska now and wanted to get some juice. I got the referral. He said he would be in Denver soon. I met him and sold him like $500 worth of stuff from Mexico. Barely any markup. Was just helping some buddies and maybe getting a little bit for free.

Then a couple weeks later... He wanted some more... Another $500 buy.

Then another week or so later and he wanted to do a much bigger buy. He said that all of his friends from Alaska wanted some. They also wanted some Valium and Vicodin if we could get it. I never had any interest in recreational drugs, so we didn't even look for it.

That particular trip, the one in which we hid everything in the engine compartments, we MOSTLY got HCG and Nolvadex... lol...

But this time, he didn't show up for the buy. But something like 20 combined DEA agents and local PD were there. I got out of the car of the friend who drove me and I was immediately surrounded at gunpoint.

They took us to the station and booked us. They wanted us to set people up. My buddy did. I didn't. I took a full year and they sent a letter to my mom's house telling me that I was being charged and that I needed to appear in Court.

I proceeded Pro se. I put a lot of work into what I would say to the judge. I ended up with 5 years of probation and 60 days of work release. I did 30 in the work release facility. My buddy didn't get charged. The guy that he set up got charged and actually got like a year or two. He had a lawyer, too!

I lucked out, but I'm a felon.

They say that the guy who set me up committed suicide a few years later.


Anyway... I've probably left out some details you might like to know. It's an open book, so feel free to ask any questions.

T

dude that really sucks..but lesson learned