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    Default Sustanon 250 + Test E Cycle Any Good?? Comments Please
    Sustanon 250 + Test E Stack Any Good??
    what are the benefits or disadvantages of this for a second cycle 250 of each twice a week for 12 weeks??
    Your comments will be appreciated
    Last edited by samrex; 10-20-2008 at 05:49 AM.

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    either do one or the other, i personal stick with test e as Sustanon (sust) can usually have a kick to it.

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    Sure thanks but I wanted to know what are the benefits or disadvantages of this as a stack??

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    Sust is Test, your asking about stacking Test on Test !!!! it's not a stack, it's just more Test. Stick to just Test E if anything, Sustanon (sust) needs to be EOD to get the benefit of the Test Prop. You need stable blood levels and by doing the Sustanon (sust) one day a week your not going to get that.

    What was your first cycle? give us your Age,stats and training history?
    Last edited by zephyrdaz; 10-20-2008 at 05:51 AM.

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    first cysle was just Sustanon (sust) 250 once a week
    im 28 5/5 70kg and training for 5 yrs now on and off

    Alright then if you say its not a stack than what are the benefits or disadvantages of this as a Cycle???
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by samrex View Post
    first cysle was just Sustanon (sust) 250 once a week
    im 28 5/5 70kg and training for 5 yrs now on and off

    Alright then if you say its not a stack than what are the benefits or disadvantages of this as a Cycle???
    Thanks
    there are no benefits to mixing test e with sustanon, do either one or the other. as zephy said Sustanon (sust) should be run eod to keep blood level stable test e can be used twice a week.
    as for your benefits and disadvantages there are no benefits and the disadvantages are your wasting your time.

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    As I've said the disadvantage is by doing the Sustanon (sust) once per week are you won't have stable blood levels.

    If your first cycle was Sustanon (sust) at 250mg once per week you probably wasted your best cycle (your first)

    Either do Sustanon (sust) EOD (as it was made for) or do Test E twice a week.
    Last edited by zephyrdaz; 10-20-2008 at 06:02 AM.

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    hey zeph where in uk you based?

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    Thanks guys for your info and I know I wasted my first cycle but it was years ago worked it hard so from 55kg to 63kg I was very happy still.

    250 of each twice a week for 12 weeks??Your comments will be appreciated[/QUOTE]

    thats one on monday of 250 of each mixed and one on Thursday at 250 of each mixed


    So if they both cost the same than what do the more experienced people out here recommend or have to comment??
    not to say you guys are not but other opinions will help
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    Is 15 years experienced enough for you?? others are probably going to tell you shouldn't be doing gear. I normally would looking at your stats, but you probably will anyway, so at least try and do it properly this time. Sustanon (sust) should be EOD, not twice a week, which part of this are you having trouble with?? Do the cycle properly this time.

    Sust normally costs more that just Test E and Test E is a better option in my opinion anyway. As it's been a while since your first cycle, then you should count this as your fist again. 500mg Test E split in to 2 jabs of 250mg Mon and Thurs for 12 weeks, absolute min of 10 weeks, but do the 12.

    Your diet and training must be spot on and now and then to the gym is not good enough. Be decicated if your going to use gear.

    What are your plans for PCT? or use this

    1-14 40mg nolva
    15-30 20mg nolva
    1-30 50mg Clomid

    Have a least Nolva on hand during your cycle in case of gyno
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    Quote Originally Posted by TERESKAN01 View Post
    hey zeph where in uk you based?
    South London mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyrdaz View Post
    South London mate
    ok, i stay in plaistow during the week and train at bodyworks in n15

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    [QUOTE=zephyrdaz;1992295]Is 15 years experienced enough for you?? others are probably going to tell you shouldn't be doing gear.

    Appreciate the reply as thats why i started the thread, Answers and other opinions so no put down intended hey ..
    Have a gym in the street now so no way this will be a weak or wasted cycle thanks for the advice appreciate your knowlegde also and the post cycle therapy (pct) have it on hand thanks again

    I have very limited access where I am so As I mentioned at the first thread I am wanting advice on Sustanon (sust) and Test E together as I only have access to 26ml of each which will get me to 13 weeks if I combine thats why I am asking this.
    Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by samrex View Post
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    I have very limited access where I am so As I mentioned at the first thread I am wanting advice on Sustanon (sust) and Test E together as I only have access to 26ml of each which will get me to 13 weeks if I combine thats why I am asking this.
    Thanks again

    26ml of each or 26 ml in total? running a cycle should not be using what ever you can get your hands on, if you dont have enough wait untill you have everything you need before you start your cycle.
    To run a cycle properly you need to have everything in line before you start, its like saying i dont have enough money for protein this week so im gonna just eat beans on toast!
    Save up and either buy more test or more sustanon to run a proper cycle.
    To be honest at your size you could easily put on size plenty more size by eating big and training hard.

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    i've just re read the above and it looks like you have 26ml of each so your preposing to run 500mg of Sustanon (sust) and 500mg of test a week totalling a gram of juice a week, thats far to much for someone at your stage, do 500mg a week will be ample to get good results if your training and diet are good

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    [QUOTE=samrex;1992303]
    Quote Originally Posted by zephyrdaz View Post
    Is 15 years experienced enough for you?? others are probably going to tell you shouldn't be doing gear.
    Quote Originally Posted by zephyrdaz View Post

    Appreciate the reply as thats why i started the thread, Answers and other opinions so no put down intended hey ..
    Have a gym in the street now so no way this will be a weak or wasted cycle thanks for the advice appreciate your knowlegde also and the post cycle therapy (pct) have it on hand thanks again

    I have very limited access where I am so As I mentioned at the first thread I am wanting advice on Sustanon (sust) and Test E together as I only have access to 26ml of each which will get me to 13 weeks if I combine thats why I am asking this.
    Thanks again
    26ml??, I'd leave the Sustanon (sust) and wait untill you get more Test E, use the Sustanon (sust) on the next cycle. Be patient and do the cycle correctly. This will in effect be a first cycle again and EOD jabs of Sustanon (sust) is not something I'd recomend for you

    Use the time to get your diet and training in order. Maybe a good idea to post up your diet and training also they are looking for new people in the convo lounge (their nicer than me), so head over there and say hi as well.

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    Sustanon wasn't made to be shot every other day. It was actually made for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) patients and to be shot once each month. However , they found this not to be beneficial anymore!
    Many people as myself has shot Sus once ew as a first cycle and have found the gains to be decent. Would I do it over with what I know now? No , but it does work for people as your hearing in this thread. But Sustanon was absolutely NOT made for shooting eod , it is just a recomendation due to it's half life of the prop in Sus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzy27 View Post
    Sustanon wasn't made to be shot every other day. It was actually made for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) patients and to be shot once each month. However , they found this not to be beneficial anymore!
    Many people as myself has shot Sus once ew as a first cycle and have found the gains to be decent. Would I do it over with what I know now? No , but it does work for people as your hearing in this thread. But Sustanon was absolutely NOT made for shooting eod , it is just a recomendation due to it's half life of the prop in Sus.
    I have already taken 5 shots of 250 sustanon on mondays and Thursdays for the last 2.5 weeks but realized it wasnt really giving me the result i had expected so now i got a hold of Test E so i was wondering what would be a better way to switch from sus to test E? Monday sus 250 and Thursday 250 test E or stop sus completely and start test E twice a week? Please advice. Thanks..

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    Wow.... You're not understanding any of this are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by samrex View Post
    Sustanon 250 + Test E Stack Any Good??
    what are the benefits or disadvantages of this for a second cycle 250 of each twice a week for 12 weeks??
    Your comments will be appreciated
    Thats not a stack is one steroid test with a bunch of diffrenting release times. stick to just teste, more simple and less sides for some.
    it doesent make sence to go out of your way to "stack" this.
    if your gonna stack pick another steroid to go with test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin2590 View Post
    I have already taken 5 shots of 250 sustanon on mondays and Thursdays for the last 2.5 weeks but realized it wasnt really giving me the result i had expected so now i got a hold of Test E so i was wondering what would be a better way to switch from sus to test E? Monday sus 250 and Thursday 250 test E or stop sus completely and start test E twice a week? Please advice. Thanks..
    SAME SHIT! my god lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzy27 View Post
    sustanon wasn't made to be shot every other day. It was actually made for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) patients and to be shot once each month. However , they found this not to be beneficial anymore!
    Many people as myself has shot sus once ew as a first cycle and have found the gains to be decent. Would i do it over with what i know now? No , but it does work for people as your hearing in this thread. But sustanon was absolutely not made for shooting eod , it is just a recomendation due to it's half life of the prop in sus.
    agreed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by juced_porkchop View Post
    SAME SHIT! my god lol
    like i mean is IS THE SAME DRUG! sust has only 1 drug ok, ONE thing, with a variety of release timed esters attached to the test, if anything this makes doseing harder and a hassle (my op).

    but if 2X a week fo sust doesnt seemt o be working WHY in the world would you think teste would do anything any diffrent??

    I dont think you know what you are doing and possibly expecting ALOT more then really come from using steroids. they only aid a bit in growth over years. dont expect too much from a cycle...

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    Samrex amongst all the replies here from some of the vets do yourself a favour do some research on AAS it will help you allot on the understanding on how the compounds work, life time, sides, benefits, etc and don't forget PCT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by juced_porkchop View Post
    like i mean is IS THE SAME DRUG! sust has only 1 drug ok, ONE thing, with a variety of release timed esters attached to the test, if anything this makes doseing harder and a hassle (my op).

    but if 2X a week fo sust doesnt seemt o be working WHY in the world would you think teste would do anything any diffrent??

    I dont think you know what you are doing and possibly expecting ALOT more then really come from using steroids. they only aid a bit in growth over years. dont expect too much from a cycle...
    Perhaps I don't know what I'm doing and obviosly you know more than I do. This is my first cycle and I was just seeking some advice. Isnt the purpose of these forums? Why be arrogant ? If you have the knowledge , share it with others who lacks of certain knowledge. I'm sure you ve also learned from researches and forums or maybe from friends. That's what I'm trying to do as well. I'm just trying to find out the safest way to switch from sus to test e. that's all. I don't know maybe sus is no good. Maybe like you said I'm expecting too much. However I would really appreciate if you could give me some advice about how to do things right and safely if you don't mind. Thanks

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