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Old 10-11-2008, 07:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hi, just wondering whats everyones opinion on running a deca enthanate cycle?

i was thinking enthanate 500mgs/week
and deca 300mgs/week

what do you guys think? heard mixed things about PCT for this cycle cause deca is weird, what should i do for pct?

1st cycle was sust250 for 12 weeks, was ok cycle gained about 10lbs.

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test e 500mgs 1-12
deca 400mgs 1-11
pct 14-18
clomid 50/50/50/50
nolva 40/40/40/40
if u feel u need to add another 2weeks
clomid 25/25
nolva 20/20
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just wondering, y deca at 400mgs, and also do i need to run both clomid and nolva? thanx for your reply though
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just wondering, y deca at 400mgs, and also do i need to run both clomid and nolva? thanx for your reply though
to get full benefits its normally ran at 400mgs, u'll get mixed opinions about pct regarding the use of clomid with nolva alot of people will say nolva by itself is fine but running clomid gives me and alot others a peace of mind.
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ive heard that deca doesnt have many sides, or less than test that is, is this true?
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yes, ive always preferred eq over deca becuase of the sides
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ive heard that deca doesnt have many sides, or less than test that is, is this true?

No mein young padawan.

deca is a DHt it mean, not natural, so your body can't treat the side effect easy and fast.

testo is the same than yours, so your body can treat the side.

saying that, you think than ther's no need to prevent some effect of testo, right? It's an enormous error. the level of testo is two times majored during a cycle, so the deffence of your body don't be enough to avoid the sides, then Bodybuilder run, a special cycle at the end of AAS-cyce, which-one is called "PCT" and some time SERM-T ( or SERM).

PCT = Post Cycle Treatment ( sex drive, and fonctionnal reproduction.
SERM-T = sensibility of estrogen receptor and modulator ( to avoid gyno... nipples)

so... the treatment for testo are easy, and the effect are foreseeable

For some DHT like deca, the effect on HPTA, testicule size, erecsion, gonado-geneisis, are moederate to strong, and also, stronger mg/mg than testo.

And need a real good pct, with precision. and addapted duration to.

some DHT are smooth, like primo.

EQ is NOT a DHT at all.

EQ is a derivativ of TESTO. it was found in a veterinar study for a injectable metandione for dogs! It doesn't work, but it resulted Boldenone undecylenate.

BOldo have less side effect than deca. his sides are similar than a testo to.

compare.

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so what would be the best pct for my mentioned cycle? can i use nolva alone?
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deca is a DHt it mean, not natural, so your body can't treat the side effect easy and fast.
hmm deca (nandrolone) is not DHT derived and it isn't converted to DHT in the body.
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hmm deca (nandrolone) is not DHT derived and it isn't converted to DHT in the body.
they are all based from DHT structural, even they ddidn't convert in DHT in the body.

that's the story of a great part of AAS.
metenolone, drostanolone, trenbolone ( based on nandrolone) nandrolone, oxandrolone,etc... ( their almost 20 but they are not all anabolics)
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No mein young padawan.

deca is a DHt it mean, not natural, so your body can't treat the side effect easy and fast.

testo is the same than yours, so your body can treat the side.

saying that, you think than ther's no need to prevent some effect of testo, right? It's an enormous error. the level of testo is two times majored during a cycle, so the deffence of your body don't be enough to avoid the sides, then Bodybuilder run, a special cycle at the end of AAS-cyce, which-one is called "PCT" and some time SERM-T ( or SERM).

PCT = Post Cycle Treatment ( sex drive, and fonctionnal reproduction.
SERM-T = sensibility of estrogen receptor and modulator ( to avoid gyno... nipples)

so... the treatment for testo are easy, and the effect are foreseeable

For some DHT like deca, the effect on HPTA, testicule size, erecsion, gonado-geneisis, are moederate to strong, and also, stronger mg/mg than testo.

And need a real good pct, with precision. and addapted duration to.

some DHT are smooth, like primo.

EQ is NOT a DHT at all.

EQ is a derivativ of TESTO. it was found in a veterinar study for a injectable metandione for dogs! It doesn't work, but it resulted Boldenone undecylenate.

BOldo have less side effect than deca. his sides are similar than a testo to.

compare.
Yes I have had more side effects from Deca then just Test E. Deca side effects can be tricky to deal with sometimes JMO
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so without everyone debating between each other, whats a good pct of for the deca?
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so without everyone debating between each other, whats a good pct of for the deca?
So, start your pct 14 days after last inject.

and run it =/- 4 weeks. Clomid. you can prepare this with Hcg.

So that's it :

first day 300mg clomid.
10-100mg clomid.
10-50mg clomid.

preparation with Hcg: 2 week before the last inject of AAS:

500 I.U two times the same day.

after 500 I.U every other days.

and you stop it just before to start clomid.

( for sexual drive during the cycle you can take 500 I.U of HCG/week, if you do that, don't run the preparation before clomid, of corse.
YES deca could be the worst on sexual foonction for some people.)
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and if i can only get my hands on clomid?
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i still dont understand why people front load on the clomid, front past experiences and the experiences of others going over 50mg is pointless becuase its just asking for sides, jmo.
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they are all based from DHT structural, even they ddidn't convert in DHT in the body.

that's the story of a great part of AAS.
metenolone, drostanolone, trenbolone ( based on nandrolone) nandrolone, oxandrolone,etc... ( their almost 20 but they are not all anabolics)
i'm not sure what you're trying to say here. that all steroids are DHT because they are synthetic versions of testosterone?

that's like saying all fruits are the same because they grow from the ground.
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can everyone stop argueing between each other and answer the question asked. can i run an effective pct with clomid or nolva as i can only get one or the other
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ive never ran clomid but 300mgs at one time? seems like overkill.
i have never ran more than 25mg/day of nolva for pct for 4 weeks, then again i was not using deca.
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