extent of bf% influence on aromatization

[ProteiNeed]

To what extent will higher bodyfat% influence the aromatization of a highly aromatizing steroid like test e? If taking an aromatase inhibitor like Arimidex or Proviron is it still suggested not to start the cycle until bodyfat is cut down to around the 10 % mark?

I'm just a little worried because I have some childhood gyno, and thus consider myself gyno-prone.

[crios660]

What BF% are you now?

[ProteiNeed]

i'm 17%. I could cut down, but i know i would sacrifice strength. What do you think i should do, cut down and start the cycle weaker, or keep lifting heavy and start the cycle stronger?

[DADAWG]

ive seen VERY large powerlifters who had little to no trouble from estrogen and ive seen lean lifters have trouble. imo genetics is more of the equation than bodyfat.

[estray]

Originally Posted by DADAWG

ive seen VERY large powerlifters who had little to no trouble from estrogen and ive seen lean lifters have trouble. imo genetics is more of the equation than bodyfat.

Id have to agree with that. And knowing youre prone to gyno, i might strongly consider an anti-e with the first cycle.


While i dont think you should run a cycle if youve got alot of extra bodyfat, i think its more important to have a few years heavy lifting under your belt and not be a teenager.

[Perfection Awaits]

A lot of BF can have a great effect. What DADAWG and ESTRAY said.

[JayC]

Although BF does have a direct correlation to aromatization, it can differ from person to person as to how much. I would consider being 14% or less before starting your cycle.. and when you start, make sure you run an AI like Aromasin thoughout the ENTIRE CYCLE.

[estray]

Originally Posted by Perfection Awaits

A lot of BF can have a great effect. What DADAWG and ESTRAY said.

It certainly can if youre a powerlifter as it can help your body support moving alot of extra weight. Is it healthy? well thats the real question.

[ManOfMuscle]

I worry more about blood pressure and circulation issues in regard to bodyfat than aromatization.

[DADAWG]

Originally Posted by ManOfMuscle

I worry more about blood pressure and circulation issues in regard to bodyfat than aromatization.

im 5-9 at best and well over 300 pounds [ drs scale only goes to 300 ] i just had a physical and bp was 116 over 76 and cholesterol was low 150's . only bad thing was slightly low " good " cholesterol.

genetics genetics genetics
im a midget in my family , most of the women are bigger than me but im the only lifer in the family. family has little or no blood pressure probs or health problems of any kind from size EXCEPT wear and tear on the joints.

[ManOfMuscle]

Originally Posted by DADAWG

im 5-9 at best and well over 300 pounds [ drs scale only goes to 300 ] i just had a physical and bp was 116 over 76 and cholesterol was low 150's . only bad thing was slightly low " good " cholesterol.

genetics genetics genetics
im a midget in my family , most of the women are bigger than me but im the only lifer in the family. family has little or no blood pressure probs or health problems of any kind from size EXCEPT wear and tear on the joints.

When I was over 300 I would get winded going up a flight of stairs. Obviously your body holds the weight better than mine.

[DADAWG]

Originally Posted by ManOfMuscle

When I was over 300 I would get winded going up a flight of stairs. Obviously your body holds the weight better than mine.

like i said my family was built to be farm equipment lol . the biggest thing i notice is the heat bothers me more at this size than it does in the mid 200's

[macro]

if you have an estrogenic fat pattern, then more fat means a significant risk of higher aromatization.

for those with an androgenic fat pattern, primarily belly fat (often with distention) then its typically less an issue.

dadawg is correct though, its a genetic issue (at least primarily- there are other factors like liver disease and other factors that can upregulate aromatase levels). if you have one of the known aromatase polymorphisms you generally produce 5-11 times as much aromatase enzyme as those with the "normal" gene sequence. since adipose tissue is a source of aromatase, more fat in these individuals mean significantly more estrogen.

age definitely affects liver production of aromatase, it may have impacts on other tissues (this has not been well explored)

[macro]

if you have a female fat pattern or pre-existing gyno, you need to use an AI. Generally reccomend at least a low dose AI for most people, except in those with very low natural estrogen (super masculine and/or lean individuals).

reccomend exemestane/aromasin or AIFM, though always have letrozole on hand.

for those with VERY severe estrogen issues, letrozole may be necessary even off cycle.