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Old 08-15-2008, 01:47 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Yea it' an old superdrol clone, but it's pretty much equivalent to rat poison when it comes to side effects and lipid levels. I have some because I bought it when I thought it was going to be banned as well, but I am yet to use it after reading peoples blood tests after taking it.
The shits cheap too but i still think id rather pay the extra money and take epistane.
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Same here. Like i said previously, I hate the idea of these small no-name companies making clones. I doubt any of them know what the hell they are really doing in a lab. I'd rather spend $40 on epistane, gain and keep 8-10lbs with low toxicity and get strong.
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just orders 1 bottle. let's see how well this works for a hardgainer!
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Good thread.. I've heard talk over the past year about it being the "real deal" but you never know with OTC's.. 9 out of 10 are usually hype.. but Epistane looks to be the 1 thats legit. I just have a hard time believing its the same or better then var. "REAL" correctly dosed Oxandrolone (var) is the shit!!! I think its hands down one the best compounds available.
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Good thread.. I've heard talk over the past year about it being the "real deal" but you never know with OTC's.. 9 out of 10 are usually hype.. but Epistane looks to be the 1 thats legit. I just have a hard time believing its the same or better then var. "REAL" correctly dosed Oxandrolone (var) is the shit!!! I think its hands down one the best compounds available.
same here. If its better than var, i'll buy $5,000 worth, stock up for when its illegal.
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Good thread.. I've heard talk over the past year about it being the "real deal" but you never know with OTC's.. 9 out of 10 are usually hype.. but Epistane looks to be the 1 thats legit. I just have a hard time believing its the same or better then var. "REAL" correctly dosed Oxandrolone (var) is the shit!!! I think its hands down one the best compounds available.
Yea...it IS an OTC supplement, but the compound itself, 2a-3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol is a steroid. Like i said I ran some very good var at 60mg/day and it had basically the same effects on me as did the epistane, except i kept the gains with epistane and with var a lost a little.
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just orders 1 bottle. let's see how well this works for a hardgainer!
It is known to make your appetite increase...this is to your advantage. If you're hungry, EAT, and EAT GOOD, mr. hardgainer.
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ESTRAY, did your wife have any sides including viritazation. A friend of mine and I are both looking for something for our wives to take and are both leaning towards anavar. Did it affect her bf at all?
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Anavar usually causes girls to bloat and they hate that, like getfitdoc said. Estray will tell you of any viritazation, but I imagine if it did cause it, he would have noted that earlier.
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No virilization at all, not even on 20mg. On 20mg anavar she starts to get clitoral enlargement after about 30 days, granted thats alot of var for a woman though. So mg for mg, id say its every bit as safe as anavar.



No real change in bodyfat but she wasnt trying to lose any, she was on a bulker of sorts and trying to throw on a few lbs of lean muscle. It did work well for that. My wife tends to get impatient on var cause shes one of the ones that reatins water on it. With the epi there was no water retention either.
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That sounds like a great compound, and know that I am sure that our wonderful govt will be taking this away as well.
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That sounds like a great compound, and know that I am sure that our wonderful govt will be taking this away as well.
Idk, its been around for a couple years and they dont seem like theyre really gunning for it. Well see.
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Superdrol made me feel like I was dying from the inside out. Just lethargic and terrible. Anyone get that on this stuff?
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Likewise...I think just about everyone does.
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Cant decide if i should try pulsing it this time or not...
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Superdrol made me feel like I was dying from the inside out. Just lethargic and terrible. Anyone get that on this stuff?
yeah, if i recall correctly my friend who i was referring to earlier was complaining of lethargy and just feeling poopy in general when he was using it.
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Dermacrine with Epistane? Think it'll be beneficial?
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Me and a couple guys at the gym used epistane . 6 of us actually . The gains were more like 5 to 10 pounds but it was solid lean gains . i kept all gains when i got off of it after pct i still gains 7 clean pounds. i loved it . strenth gains were pretty good to
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I dont think it would negate in any way. I dont know much about dermacrine...or its effects on women or men.
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Me and a couple guys at the gym used epistane . 6 of us actually . The gains were more like 5 to 10 pounds but it was solid lean gains . i kept all gains when i got off of it after pct i still gains 7 clean pounds. i loved it . strenth gains were pretty good to
sounds a lot like me...except i had 8 lbs, and kept all of them
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did you guys use it as addition to test cycle? do you think it could work synergistically?
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It could be used with test, obviously, just like any steroid. I would recommend it at the beginning of a test cycle, like most orals are used. But it could be used alone as well.
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This is what the official Epistane Website says is the:
"Extreme Mass Cycle"

WEEK 1: 40mg Epistane™ (start at 10mg first day and move up 10mg each day)
WEEK 2-4: 40mg Epistane™
WEEK 5: 150mg X-Lean™+Favorite PCT SERM
WEEK 6: 100mgX-Lean™+Favorite PCT SERM 
WEEK 7: 50mg X-Lean™+Favorite PCT SERM 

Not really sure what "x-lean" is.

I think I am going to do this, but I'm also going to add in Dermacrine Dermacrine - Boosting Testosterone with Topical DHEA and Pregnenolone , and use primordial performance's PCT protocol
Complete PCT from Primordial Performance

PCT Stack with Sustain Alpha, Toco-8 and EndoAmp
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