Epistane: The next generation of hormones

[Rougen123]

When I was running 60mg I was taking 2 morning 2 afternoon 2 late night. And sometimes I'd take 3 in the AM and 3 in the PM to try and vary up the dosages because I wasn't noticing anything while I was on the tren.

[Perfection Awaits]

Tren injection?

[Rougen123]

No 1t-tren by PP.

[Onehungrychicken]

If its on here im sorry for missing it how would this go with Test and Deca? I ordered 4 bottles and was thinking of just going 40mgs a day until it ran out. Is this acceptable? If not whats the longest I can run? IM on PP so I didnt want to go with a super high dose because of liver.

LOLI reread the first page.

[HeHateMe]

Originally Posted by Onehungrychicken

If its on here im sorry for missing it how would this go with Test and Deca? I ordered 4 bottles and was thinking of just going 40mgs a day until it ran out. Is this acceptable? If not whats the longest I can run? IM on PP so I didnt want to go with a super high dose because of liver.

LOLI reread the first page.

90 capsules per bottle = 40mg day = 4 caps day = 90 days/3 months...too long for any oral IMO.

Most people seem to run it 4-6 weeks (8 tops).

[Onehungrychicken]

Those who have used this would you compare it gains wise to a weak oral like primobolan?

[Rougen123]

Originally Posted by Onehungrychicken

Those who have used this would you compare it gains wise to a weak oral like primobolan?

Since I've never run primo I'd say no. Also I'm fairly sure primo oral isn't that weak so long as your taking the proper dose. Ive also never run Var but from what I've read and heard from other people I would compare epistane to a low dose short var cycle. Maybe something like 20mg var = 60mg epistane? I'm not trying to bash epistane I really like it's possitive estro effects but I really didn't notice much of anything when I was on.

[Onehungrychicken]

For its estro effects would you guys say it can be used as an AI if taking a light dose of test and Deca?

[Danbar]

Hey all. Been lurking for a while, thought I'd chime in.

Being female, PHs & AS that are available are somewhat limited whilst being self-prescribed. And not wanting to go down the injectable route, I decided to play it safe and got myself a bottle of 90 capsules made by Competive Edge Labs, from protein-factory.

Am on Day 5 of E-Stane, an epistane clone. Cycle is to go 20/30/40/30/20 then followed with a PCT, note that the start and finish "weeks" are not complete weeks.

Have noticed my strength not lost over having been away from weight for a few months. Will post improvement at the end of the cycle, at the start of November.

Not yet noticed any hair loss, and I hope I don't. Def a "change" in the "bedroom department" though. Not horney all the time as I had worried, but certainly a lot easily "triggered".

No aggro or anything like that. Just wish that I could spend more time in the gym.

My diet is good - rice, homemade pizzas, steak, roast chicken, eggs & bacon, brocoli etc. Also topping up with BCAA & protein shakes before work out and post workout drinks.

[Danbar]

Decided to drop the dose to 10mg per day. Might seem to be a step backward, but what's mentioned in the women's section is ringing true, with the sore throat and have just had a zit. I know, I know, I might be over reacting, but some things are better not left to chance.

[Danbar]

The sore throat is not going away, so I decided o quit it. Started my PCT today.

Shame - I had hoped for greater things.

[Rougen123]

Originally Posted by Danbar

The sore throat is not going away, so I decided o quit it. Started my PCT today.

Shame - I had hoped for greater things.

I'm not an expert, but Epi is really really mild. It could just be a cold coming on? I'm not saying a woman couldnt get those effects from Epi, I just don't think it would of happend that fast.

[Perfection Awaits]

Epistane wont get you sick

[estray]

Originally Posted by Rougen123

I'm not an expert, but Epi is really really mild. It could just be a cold coming on? I'm not saying a woman couldnt get those effects from Epi, I just don't think it would of happend that fast.

Originally Posted by Perfection Awaits

Epistane wont get you sick

The sore throat is likely not from getting sick, in females its a sign that the vocal chords are starting to thicken.

Originally Posted by Danbar

Decided to drop the dose to 10mg per day. Might seem to be a step backward, but what's mentioned in the women's section is ringing true, with the sore throat and have just had a zit. I know, I know, I might be over reacting, but some things are better not left to chance.

Stay away from epi if youre a female. You need estrogen to function properly and epi will all but shut that down completely in 2 different ways. One because it acts as an anti estrogen by blocking aromatzation of testosterone into estrogen, and 2 because its also a steroid and itll shut down your natural testosterone production (which again you need to produce estrogen via aromatazition). Bad combo all around. Even 10mg day can knock a females estrogen down to nothing very shortly. A little bit of estrogen reduction can be beneficial to a female but knocking it out all together can put you in a funky place real quick. You could play with the dose, maybe take 10mg every third day, but theres no real way to tell if its leaving you with any estrogen without a blood test.

My wifes tried epi a couple times and noting positive has come out of it aside from some strenght gains. She lost more than a whole cup size on her breasts, actually fights not to put on abdominal fat when shes taking it, and it slows her thyroid way down making it all but impossible to lose weight, and it really screws her menstrual cycle up badly. And then to make things worse when you come off the epi, youll likely get estrogen rebound and gain fat.