[gettingully1]

I've read very favorable reviews on this forum for anavar. While most people are wary of any oral only cycles, anavar seems to be the best bet in that regard.

In order to get as many different perspectives and opinions as possible, I visit a couple other forums. The forums and bodybuilding.com seem to have a drastically different opinion of anavar. The consensus there seems to be that anavar is for women only. That is the extreme, but even the milder dissenters insist that anavar is only good for "ripping your wallet".

I've been interested in trying an anavar cycle in order to cut, without adding size but i've been overwhelmed by so much contradicting information. Whats the verdict on that forum? Is this still debated or are they as misinformed as I hope they are?

Thanks for any and all input.

Gully

[estray]

Ive ran it twice as has my wife and neither one of us noticed any 'additional' fatburning effects aside from the normal amount that would be expected from our diets. Strength went up, thats about it.

[Skarhead1]

you can cut w/ any drug. That is so frat boy esque to say "oh im cuttin up bro gonna use some winny or anavar and get shredded!"

Some people look like marsh mellows on dbol, but Dbol does something where it makes me appear lean and not that bloated (even though i do hold a good bit of water on it). you could cut with test only (which is what i would do over anavar only)

If anavar doesn't kill your wallet, it's a pretty good drug for strength and it will assist you in mass gains proved you get strong/eat enough protein.

[Nasdaq]

I just started var at 80 mgs ed ..this will be my first time runnin it

not doing it alone tho

[Nasdaq]

Originally Posted by gettingully1

I've read very favorable reviews on this forum for anavar. While most people are wary of any oral only cycles, anavar seems to be the best bet in that regard.

In order to get as many different perspectives and opinions as possible, I visit a couple other forums. The forums and bodybuilding.com seem to have a drastically different opinion of anavar. The consensus there seems to be that anavar is for women only. That is the extreme, but even the milder dissenters insist that anavar is only good for "ripping your wallet".

I've been interested in trying an anavar cycle in order to cut, without adding size but i've been overwhelmed by so much contradicting information. Whats the verdict on that forum? Is this still debated or are they as misinformed as I hope they are?

Thanks for any and all input.

Gully

diff peep got diff goals

I could give a fuck about size ..I'm 6 feet 220 at sub 5 %..i just like refining and shaping my muscles into the proportions that look good to me

[rocko419]

First off an Anavar only cycle will not be benaficial. It is a week steroid. But when you take it in conjuction with some other things then it can be a help. Now for me say that again for me I loved it. I did it at like 40 or 50mg ED at the end of my cycle for like 5 weeks or so. !st off deff strenth incress no doubt about it. @nd i took it with mastron and also i think the base of my cycle was Prop and NPP and i just felt a real good strenth incress as well as the most vascular i had ever been. Now in all fearness this was my first time doing mastron and first for anavar so i really cant say it was the var or the mastron that worked better then the other or was it the combo of the both of them.Well lets see if that keeps you nice and confused.Lol good luck..And ya that shit is very very expansive isen't it.

[estray]

Originally Posted by Nasdaq

diff peep got diff goals

I could give a fuck about size ..I'm 6 feet 220 at sub 5 %..i just like refining and shaping my muscles into the proportions that look good to me

At your low bodyfat the effects will probably be a little more drastic on you.



Its when a guy at 15% bf says im gonna run an anavar cutter, i have to lol.

[JayC]

Test/var is by far one of the best cycles I'v run.. the body recomp properties were insane for me. Loved it, absolutely loved it. If your bf is sub 14% and your looking at shaping up and chiseling the edges, you'll love. It also gave me crazy vascularity, insane hardness, and good strength boosts. I found it best to run it the last 8-10 weeks of a test cyp run. I would not run it alone.. alone is for women.

[gettingully1]

estray, what are your thoughts of running anavar alone if you're only interested in strength and vascularity and not size?

[Skarhead1]

Originally Posted by rocko419

First off an Anavar only cycle will not be benaficial. It is a week steroid. But when you take it in conjuction with some other things then it can be a help. Now for me say that again for me I loved it. I did it at like 40 or 50mg ED at the end of my cycle for like 5 weeks or so. !st off deff strenth incress no doubt about it. @nd i took it with mastron and also i think the base of my cycle was Prop and NPP and i just felt a real good strenth incress as well as the most vascular i had ever been. Now in all fearness this was my first time doing mastron and first for anavar so i really cant say it was the var or the mastron that worked better then the other or was it the combo of the both of them.Well lets see if that keeps you nice and confused.Lol good luck..And ya that shit is very very expansive isen't it.

Have you ever ran anavar alone? Then how do you know if it's weak by itself but awesome with other compounds......but then you go on to say you didnt even know if it was the var or another compound working?

[estray]

Originally Posted by gettingully1

estray, what are your thoughts of running anavar alone if you're only interested in strength and vascularity and not size?

If youre vascular to some degree to begin with then i think youd be happy with the results. If you dont have a single vein showing in your arms, dont expect them to suddenly pop out cause it probably wont happen. as for strength, well its a great strength steroid, no arguments here.


I would recommend at least 80mg per day for a solo run. Its not a cheap date.

[gettingully1]

for how long would you run it alone? I was thinking between 4 - 6 weeks. This would be my third cycle but first in almost 2 years. My last two cycles have been just test-e bread and butter. Im not trying to add any size and I have a bf% below 10%.

[estray]

Yeah, 4-6 weeks is about right. Obviously shorter will make recovery easier but even at 6weeks recovery should be cake . Try it out and let us know how it goes.

[estray]

And for those who are adamant on running test with it, i would like to know if any of you have ever tried var alone. I have for 6 weeks and it was very short and simple. Like i said i didnt get the drastic recomping but strength went up quite a bit even on a restricted cal diet. In my eyes, running test e for 4-6 weeks along with it wouldve just complicated the cycle. First, I wouldntve got much off the test as it would just be kicking in when it was time to stop. Second, more compounds = faster shutdown. Third, i wouldve had to deal with bloating or add ANOTHER drug like an AI to counter.

And lastly but most imporantly, it wouldve delayed my pct 2 weeks which would be dumb because i never felt shut down in the first place. No libido probs, No post cycle blues, etc, so by taking it alone, i felt completely back to normal by week 7, whereas if id used test id likely not have been fully recovered till week 11 or 12. Doesnt really make any sense and i have no regrets. Id do it again in a second if It was cheap enough just for the strength.

[gettingully1]

as far as recovery goes, how was it? what did you do for PCT? thanks again for all your help estray.

oh and how did you divide your daily doses?

gully

[estray]

Recovery was easy. I was gonna run clomid for 3 weeks but only ended up doing 2. I only ran 50mg of var per day and i think i wouldve had better results at 80mg in which case i wwould take 40 in the am and 40 in the pm. 50mg taken all at once gave me heartburn too.

[getfitdoc]

80mg/day for 6 weeks 42 days = 3360mg of var.

thats an expensive for a cycle, but if money aint a thing then knock it out

[gettingully1]

i might run 2 weeks of 40 and then 4 weeks of 60 to make it a little more manageable finacially. unless that would be a waste?

[Skarhead1]

Originally Posted by gettingully1

i might run 2 weeks of 40 and then 4 weeks of 60 to make it a little more manageable finacially. unless that would be a waste?

that should probably work. i ran 40-50mg a day and it worked well. I dont think the avg user needs much more than that to start out. A 6 week cycle is better than a 4 wk cycle.

[gettingully1]

i just looked over the forum rules and did not see anything anything about posting a prices. would it be against the forum's rule to post the price i pay per mg for my anavar to make sure im not paying too much. i know most boards dont allow this so i want to make sure

[estray]

Yeah, dont do that. Then your inbox will blow up from people/scammers offering to sell it to you for less.

[gettingully1]

good call - stupid me. thanks again

[JayC]

Whats up estray.. no, never ran Var alone so can't attest there. I did however run Halo alone back in the day and then ran it will test and of course the test/halo blew the the halo-alone out of the water. ..and really, my shut down and recovery wasn't much different and I recovered fine on both... but bear in mind, I'm a great responder to test and generally get almost no sides from test. I'm not really opposed to running var alone but I guess my thinking is why not run it with a low/TRT dose of test? Just my opinion though..

[rocko419]

Originally Posted by Skarhead1

Have you ever ran anavar alone? Then how do you know if it's weak by itself but awesome with other compounds......but then you go on to say you didnt even know if it was the var or another compound working?

Well pretty much every article i ever read and a good amount of advice given to me from guys on the boards ALL say it's week by it self. So True I cant speak from personal experience on that statement but I feel confidant enough from the input I was given to be comfortable to pass it on. And Ya I did say i wasen't sure if it was the var or the mastron or both. I was 100% honest in that statement so I don't get it what's your point?

[Skarhead1]

Originally Posted by rocko419

Well pretty much every article i ever read and a good amount of advice given to me from guys on the boards ALL say it's week by it self. So True I cant speak from personal experience on that statement but I feel confidant enough from the input I was given to be comfortable to pass it on. And Ya I did say i wasen't sure if it was the var or the mastron or both. I was 100% honest in that statement so I don't get it what's your point?

See, here's the problem on the internet. Youre just parroting stuff you've read and don't know for sure. That's how bad advice becomes so widely spread on these damn boards.

The point is you dont know for sure if var is weak by itself or not, youre just posting stuff that you've read with nothing to back it up. Anavar is a mild drug, and you don't need to tr it to know it, but you absolutely can run it on it's own. I would never do a cycle of it on its own for less than 6 weeks, IMO 6 weeks is probably way too short, but that's all this particular guy has. I have run it on it's own and it does give me good strength gains and I can notice better body comp by week 3 or 4. So to say it's too weak by itself isn't true and its irresponsible to pass some things you heard with no evidence to back it up as fact.