[TOBorn]

I am a 47 year old male.
Weight 285 pnds 6'0 tall
25% BFat
Have been training now for 6 months after a long break from working out.
I was injured and take Perks regularly for the pain.

I have just completed a beginner cycle of Test Enanthat and dbol for 6 weeks / did not see much in loss of body fat but large strength gains. I feel I need to do more and for a longer period of time in order to lose the body fat. I am doing a pretty strict training routine with heavy weight .. but not much cardio at all. MY eating habits are moderate ... taking in a lot of protein But they could be better. i have recently cut out bread, Because I have gained more weight but I feel it is due to water retention from dbol. My next cycle is as follows.

20 cc 250 mg Enanthate
20 cc 200 mg Deca
370 tabs of dbol
20 cc 50 mg Winstrol
20 IU GROWTH Hormone
160 Nolvodex
Hcg 1000IU's for PCT

This is from the Mick Hart Advanced Cycle ... Laymans guide to ... is anyone familiar with him ? Would this be a good cycle to take ... I am also concerned about the perks ... should I not be taking them ?

[Nasdaq]

your fat


go on a diet ..get in shape ..then use gear


stop trying to kill yourself

[TOBorn]

Ok I understand ... could you be more specific

[Juggernaut2148]

Drop the dbol......at your current size it isn't necessary and you don't really need a kick starter. The rest looks pretty decent although Nas is right, dropping some weight prior to jumping on would greatly help you see the results you're looking for. What length of time had you planned to run this one.........at our age a 6 week run isn't really much......I prefer 12-16 week runs with a cruise of test between cycles. If you're like me your test levels are low to begine with. Mine are somewhere in the 300 range off cycle.

Tighten up that diet.....you're only spinning your wheels otherwise.

[rocko419]

Originally Posted by Nasdaq

your fat


go on a diet ..get in shape ..then use gear


stop trying to kill yourself

Lol Nas please bro will you just get to the point.... Lol.. Your fat! Lol.. Your killing me bro....

[zephyrdaz]

There's no need to insult the guy, he's come here looking for advice.

Steroids are not the miracle people seem to think they are, and your just not going to see the results you seem to want in 6 weeks and not from the cycle you were running. I personally do not think you should be doing the gear, though your unlikely to listen to me, as you seem to have already made your decision.

Before you do anything else you should just sort out your diet and training, you should be able to get advice on both of those on this site somewhere. Also get basic things like your blood pressure checked. Do that read up more and take it from there, but don't run that cycle.

[sicasso13]

Originally Posted by zephyrdaz

There's no need to insult the guy, he's come here looking for advice.

Steroids are not the miracle people seem to think they are, and your just not going to see the results you seem to want in 6 weeks and not from the cycle you were running. I personally do not think you should be doing the gear, though your unlikely to listen to me, as you seem to have already made your decision.

Before you do anything else you should just sort out your diet and training, you should be able to get advice on both of those on this site somewhere. Also get basic things like your blood pressure checked. Do that read up more and take it from there, but don't run that cycle.

Take this advice please

[Tapeworm]

How about just test, var, an AI, and calorie debt + cardio & weights? Maybe some HCG for the nuts.

BTW, I think your probably a little higher than 25% bf. That would put you around 225 shredded to the bone, which is unlikely with your history. I'm betting you're nearer 35%. I think you should lose some easy weight first, which will ensure your diet and excercise are in check, then consider the drugs later.

[TOBorn]

Thansk guys you are absolutely right ... my body fat is 35% had it checked last night ... hmmm ok ... I will not be running this cycle then .. I need more education adn a serious diet plan obviously ... I think I was looking for the miracle cure ... when it looks like more hard work needs to be done in Diet adn cardio.