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    How to minimize water retention while on Test.
    WHat is reccommended to take while on test to reduce water retention?

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    arimidex works i believe

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmlacrosse
    arimidex works i believe
    Looks good, thanks..Do you know when it should be taken? Throughout the whole cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbolfist
    Looks good, thanks..Do you know when it should be taken? Throughout the whole cycle?
    EOD during the cycle.

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    Wont that inhibit IGF release? Therefor,...gains? Plus, what's wrong with water retention?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple
    Wont that inhibit IGF release? Therefor,...gains? Plus, what's wrong with water retention?
    i like the water myself

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    AIFM used 2 times ED works for me. Adex also works well. I personally like to keep as much of the water off as I can, as it keeps me looking better.

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    excessive water retention is not healthy. Plus it makes you look bad.

    Adex @ .25mg ED or EOD to start is a good idea.

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    Aromasin 25mg EOD
    and/or HCTZ 25mg ED

    Arimidex and letro will wreck your lipid profile.

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    HCTZ? Diuretics even on training days? Interesting. What are the things to look out for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sliding_Filament
    HCTZ? Diuretics even on training days? Interesting. What are the things to look out for?
    HCTZ is a very mild diuretic and has been proven safe to take for long periods of time. I'd only use it if I had significant water retention during a cycle. Personally, I use it whenever I take test b/c I retain a ton of water in my midsection with test. Plus, it has the added effect of keeping BP down which is raised significantly while on Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) for some people.

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    Makes a lot of sense. Thanks DocJ. Good info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sliding_Filament
    Makes a lot of sense. Thanks DocJ. Good info.
    Btw your board username is very cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocJ
    HCTZ is a very mild diuretic and has been proven safe to take for long periods of time. I'd only use it if I had significant water retention during a cycle. Personally, I use it whenever I take test b/c I retain a ton of water in my midsection with test. Plus, it has the added effect of keeping BP down which is raised significantly while on Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) for some people.
    Actually I read that just recentely Diuretics and Beta Blockers have been linked to diabetes. ACE inhibitors are safer and so is calcium channel blockers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sliding_Filament
    HCTZ? Diuretics even on training days? Interesting. What are the things to look out for?
    High Blood Sugar Level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple
    ACE inhibitors are safer and so is calcium channel blockers.
    Whoa! I'd like to see that research, Ca channel blockers have TONS of side effects. Were they specifically looking at HCTZ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocJ
    Aromasin 25mg EOD
    and/or HCTZ 25mg ED

    Arimidex and letro will wreck your lipid profile.

    There are so many conflicting studies on this, that I'm not too sure they are much worse than aromasin on lipids. I've seen some studies that said adex and letro are the same as aromasin on lipids. Everything is dose dependant, estrogen helps lipids, just dont overdo it and you should be fine.

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    first question I have is - how long is your cycle going to be? have you started the cycle and started retaining water? how much water are you drinking a day? if you're doing a 10-12 week cycle - you might want to get going and see how things go before you add an anti-e.

    I like extemstane myself....

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    Doc J.,
    I take HCTZ(25mg) and Atenolol(50mg) for mild elevated B.P. and my B.P. is now between 110/70-120/80. What are the sides of HCTZ, of coarse my doc would never tell me, does it influence your lipid profile? I do know Atenolol kills your/my libido and my heart rate is that of a marathon runner at 55bpm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocJ
    Whoa! I'd like to see that research, Ca channel blockers have TONS of side effects. Were they specifically looking at HCTZ?
    http://news.softpedia.com/news/Some-...sk-24241.shtml

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    How can they say this:

    Compared to patients not taking a beta-blocker, older women taking beta-blockers had a 32 percent higher risk of diabetes, while for men the risk was 20 percent higher.

    ...and then draw this conclusion?

    "Increased surveillance for diabetes in patients treated with these medications may be warranted," the authors conclude.
    The use of other common types of blood pressure lowering drugs -- calcium channel blockers and ACE inhibitors - was not associated with the development of type 2 diabetes, according to the report.


    Not to mention these are people taking thiazides for YEARS, not a BB on a 12 week cycle of test taking it for the duration of the cycle only.

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    ah, well made point sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocJ
    Btw your board username is very cool
    Thanks. I was gonna go with actin_myosin, but it didn't quite do it for me. lol. You a real MD DocJ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sliding_Filament
    Thanks. I was gonna go with actin_myosin, but it didn't quite do it for me. lol. You a real MD DocJ?
    I'd rather not say out of concern for annonimity, however, I will say that I am a "real" doctor in the healthcare industry but I'm not specifically, an M.D. I also have a PhD in a related science field.

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    aromasin over arimidex 12-24mg ED

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocJ
    I'd rather not say out of concern for annonimity, however, I will say that I am a "real" doctor in the healthcare industry but I'm not specifically, an M.D. I also have a PhD in a related science field.
    I respect that. It's people with your knowledge that keeps people like us safe and well-informed. Keep up the good work sir!

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