Massive Newbie Info

[bellweather]

hey i also have a quick question..

i noticed in one of the preceeding posts that nolvadex should be taken during your cycle of, say, test/deca? which i assume means that during weeeks 1-10 i am taking test/deca/nolva all simultaneously?

i know this is probably a novice question but thats exactly what i am so i just want to make sure im on the right page here.. any input from anyone would be greatly appreciated..

[TheMass]

That is great information, I am deciding whether to try my first cycle. I have been natural and I have seen only minimal gains. I don't even know where to look to find a cycle if that is what I decide to do. Anyone have any suggestions? I am trying to do as much research as I can, but looks like I came to the right place.

[DocJ]

Originally Posted by bellweather

i noticed in one of the preceeding posts that nolvadex should be taken during your cycle of, say, test/deca? which i assume means that during weeeks 1-10 i am taking test/deca/nolva all simultaneously?

Yes but most would say only if you're seeing signs of gyno.

[StoneColdNTO]

Originally Posted by bellweather

hey i also have a quick question..

i noticed in one of the preceeding posts that nolvadex should be taken during your cycle of, say, test/deca? which i assume means that during weeeks 1-10 i am taking test/deca/nolva all simultaneously?

i know this is probably a novice question but thats exactly what i am so i just want to make sure im on the right page here.. any input from anyone would be greatly appreciated..

You do NOT want to take Nolvadex while running Nandrolone (Deca) as it can actually aggrevate gyno symptoms.

[bellweather]

thanks guys.. its been a while since i posted this. im actually gonna wait a while to run the deca. stickin with test e for now..

cheers

-b

[Twistedi]

damnnnn sooo much info!! thanks or all the info. i was thinking about starting, but now it all sounds so damn complicated lol

[GREGBRICH]

Most ecellent information, I have really learned allot today reading this thread.

[SteelM]

I never read a better thread!!!
Excelent work.

[arros123]

STEROID SIDE EFFECTS AND HOW TO STOP THEM PART 1:
Steroid Side Effects And How To Avoid Them
This chapter, along with the chapter on the proper use of ancillary medications, are two of the most important chapters in this book. Why? Because AAS have side effects, and long-term use of AAS can have a profound effect on longevity and overall quality of life in later years if preventative measures are not taken. Having used steroids myself for over 10 years now, I have suffered through virtually ever side effect listed in this chapter, and have consequently educated myself on how to avoid them.

Regardless of your age, it’s important to always bear in mind that the use of AAS for the purposes of gaining an edge in sport can be an inherently unhealthy endeavor. There is a distinct difference between the doses of hormones or drugs that are used in slowing the aging process through hormone replacement therapy (hereafter referred to as HRT, please see the chapter on HRT by Dr. Ramon Scruggs for further clarification) and those that are used to enhance performance. If one is to properly use performance enhancing drugs, it is vital that they know the potential side effects of drugs they are using, know how to combat these side effects, and most importantly, actually implement the knowledge they have. Time and time again I’ve seen a bodybuilder develop gynecomastia (commonly referred to as “bitch tits” in the bodybuilding vernacular) despite the fact that the individual in question knew this was a possibility and also knew the preventative measures to take. One should not engage in the use of AAS or any other performance enhancing drug if the maintenance of proper health is not of primary concern.

Compounding the problem of treating the side effects of AAS is the hysteria surrounding their use in the first place. Many bodybuilders that use steroids find themselves to be social pariahs, muscular misfits if you will, and end up finding comfort in the company of others that engage in steroid use as well. Because a bodybuilder wears his sport, he’s branded a steroid user by many regardless of whether that’s the case or not. Often times, the shame one feels regarding their steroid use will cause them to suffer through the side effects associated with their use, rather than seeking competent medical help. Truth be told, it’s very difficult to find competent medical help to treat the side effects of steroids, as most doctors simply have no idea how to properly do so. More often than not, the physicians I worked with for most of my years on steroids were completely clueless as to how one might ameliorate the negative side effects of these drugs, and would simply tell me to “get off the steroids”. I say this not to dissuade those of you reading this from seeking out the advice of a doctor regarding the side effects of steroid use, just to prepare you for a probable response.

Most of the side effects related to steroids are cosmetic and will disappear when one discontinues their use. But those that aren’t are the most important to understand and treat as necessary. Most of these cannot be seen or felt, and all are related to issues of cardiovascular health. Steroids can adversely affect cholesterol levels, triglyceride levels, and hypertension, which over time can and will lead to an increase in heart disease. Always monitor your resting hear rate and blood pressure on a weekly basis when taking steroids and have your cholesterol and triglycerides checked every six months if you are using steroid consistently. These are not problems you can live with, ignore them and you may very well die much earlier than you would have otherwise. Ask yourself this question: “How much is every year of my life worth to me?” If you ignore the potential for an increased risk of heart disease when using anabolic steroids, you are essentially answering the question with, “Very little indeed.”

Before we begin a look at the actual side effects themselves and how to treat them, it’s important to note that not all AAS are created equal!! At times, for the sake of brevity, I will lump all AAS together, but the fact remains that some steroids will cause more negative side effects than others. One of the points of this book is to allow you to make that distinction, and walk away with the knowledge of how to use them as safely as possible. Below is a list of steroids most commonly associated with the side effects listed in this chapter:

[peterlog]

thanks for sharing. I'm loving this thread.

[ZOMG]

wow badass read, read thru it multiplie times. very helpful and good detail!!!

[ben ellis]

amazing knowledge...thank u. (golddust)

[RobZilla]

Wow! I learned more in this 20 minute read than I have learned in 20 years! I only thought I knew what I was doing. Most of the info I have been doing already just now I know why! Required reading for anyone wanting to cycle, anything (PERIOD)! And a guest appearance from the MAN! Can we get a Dan Duchane appearance next, lol! J/K!

[turnNburn1x]

Good shit to know, especially for my newbie ass.

[sartron]

Originally Posted by gmac356

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[dcarusone]

i never did cycles before i an 5'8 210lbs im looking to cut weight an get more deffinition i been reading alot of forums about winstol both positive an negitive some saying i should stack with test e i want to know a good cycle to do to get these results i also know that steriods do not burn fat so i am aware that i will have to maintain a good diet an do intense cardio

[Biggin]

Test only for first cycle. U can cut or bulk on Test. How old are U??

[dcarusone]

im 18 years old i know everyone is going to tell me to wait till im done growing to do cycles

[Biggin]

U answered Urself bro.

[dcarusone]

does anyone know if test e will show up in a piss drug test

[Biggin]

No it will not, they have to test for roids seperately.

[rizza0118]

First i Keep reading these threads and see people saying they order these produsts, I am in the US can I order a product online and I have it mailed witout getting caught. Secondly, I start my cycle on Saturday shouls I start with a 250 shot or start with a 500 shot for an initial boost and then continue to do 250 twice a week

[Biggin]

What does Ur Pct look like??

[Turtleneck1971]

agreed, do you have EVERYTHING before you start? and 250 is fine.