No debate, but I'd like to add a few points.
The amount of r-ALA necessary to protect the liver may cause dangerously low blood sugar levels. Milk Thistle, lecithin, NAC and Pirkoliv are all good liver protectants.
Proviron is only mldly suppressive and makes a nice conduit between being "on" and "off" by helping to ease the crash.
Epimedium and ashwagandha are also good for libido.
Muara Puama is vital for increasing free testosterone.
Make sure the avena has the active extract, otherwise it's useless.
Xanthoparmilia will aid in erective function, which is more of a problem than libido. When used with Cndium, it has a Cialis type of effect.
Zinc helps in the production of semen.
All the ingredients mentioned in both posts can be found in Unleashed and Post-Cycle.
www.proteinfactory.com (Expept the HCG and proviron.

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