keep away from apex i used it and was coverd in spots all over me and me freinds all used it at same time and all got the same side effects,,, its more or less all faked now and if your in the uk there is shit loads of it i honestly dont know anyone i know that would give it space,,,,, !!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have tryed loads of gear and hammerd it and never had side affects like that,,, i wouldnt if a was you !
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